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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 11:00:PM » |
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I disagree.
Gingrich would be better than Obama in every objective measure. Better is not necessarily 'good.' But, Ging will reverse Obamacare, at bare minimum with regards to forced birth control/chemical abortion.
Obama actually argued in favor of infanticide. Remember that: in IL he was in favor of murdering a completely 100% birthed child. That's Baal/Moloch level evil man.
And what has Gingrich done in regards to abortion? Remember Gingrich was Speaker of the House and really nothing much was done. Are you blind? Look around you and see what Obama is doing. Even if he doesn't get Roe V. Wade overturned at least Gingrich wouldn't be looking for excuses to kill our children and put us on the fast track to hell.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 11:06:PM » |
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Matters of policy aside, the fact is Gingrich is a smug, obnoxious blowhard. It doesn't really matter who gets elected, so at least let it be somebody slightly more tolerable than him.
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 11:09:PM » |
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Gingrich < Obama
Come on....Seriously? I realize that there's no love here for "neo-cons," but that statement is asinine. All I know is that I would rather put up with Obama for another four years than be forced to listen to Gingrich's blather for any amount of time. That is incredibly shallow and amoral. Obama is pro-abortion and pro gay marriage; abominations in our Faith. Regardless of how they look or sound, if it comes down to 2 people you should always support the pro-life candidate. ANY other issue takes a seat on the back burner.
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2012, 11:13:PM » |
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Gingrich < Obama
Come on....Seriously? I realize that there's no love here for "neo-cons," but that statement is asinine. All I know is that I would rather put up with Obama for another four years than be forced to listen to Gingrich's blather for any amount of time. That is incredibly shallow and amoral. Obama is pro-abortion and pro gay marriage; abominations in our Faith. Regardless of how they look or sound, if it comes down to 2 people you should always support the pro-life candidate. ANY other issue takes a seat on the back burner. Eh, homosexual marriage is only a matter of time and Gingrich wouldn't actually do anything about abortion anyway. They never do. It doesn't really matter. In a race between Gingrich and Obama, there is no good outcome. Although, I guess Gingrich would give us the moon base.
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2012, 11:18:PM » |
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Gingrich < Obama
Come on....Seriously? I realize that there's no love here for "neo-cons," but that statement is asinine. All I know is that I would rather put up with Obama for another four years than be forced to listen to Gingrich's blather for any amount of time. That is incredibly shallow and amoral. Obama is pro-abortion and pro gay marriage; abominations in our Faith. Regardless of how they look or sound, if it comes down to 2 people you should always support the pro-life candidate. ANY other issue takes a seat on the back burner. Eh, homosexual marriage is only a matter of time and Gingrich wouldn't actually do anything about abortion anyway. They never do. It doesn't really matter. In a race between Gingrich and Obama, there is no good outcome. I have no love for Gingrich ( I honestly hope he drops out soon) but I don't share your attitude. No matter what his faults Gingrich would not be as evil as Obama.
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2012, 11:34:PM » |
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TG and CP,
I say again, if you are faced with a choice of Gingrich or Obama, you cannot seriously be suggesting that there is no moral difference.
We are enjoined by our faith in Christ Jesus to support the obvious better choice. Again, Obama supported (and never recanted) actual 100% infanticide. I say again, that is heavy demonic evil.
Yeah, Gingrich is a politician and not someone I get particularly excited about. However, with Romney's apparent reverse guard of the Holy Ghost (he just stuck his foot down his throat again by talking about how scary anthropogenic global warming is), Gingrich is going to get the nomination. Might sound nuts now, but that's how this will play out.
So, if faced with an Obama-Gingrich choice, are you seriously going to argue that there is not a clear moral difference between the two men? For starters, one is not even a proven citizen by birth or by naturalization!
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2012, 11:38:PM » |
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TG and CP,
I say again, if you are faced with a choice of Gingrich or Obama, you cannot seriously be suggesting that there is no moral difference.
We are enjoined by our faith in Christ Jesus to support the obvious better choice. Again, Obama supported (and never recanted) actual 100% infanticide. I say again, that is heavy demonic evil.
Yeah, Gingrich is a politician and not someone I get particularly excited about. However, with Romney's apparent reverse guard of the Holy Ghost (he just stuck his foot down his throat again by talking about how scary anthropogenic global warming is), Gingrich is going to get the nomination. Might sound nuts now, but that's how this will play out.
So, if faced with an Obama-Gingrich choice, are you seriously going to argue that there is not a clear moral difference between the two men? For starters, one is not even a proven citizen by birth or by naturalization!
This. Thank you!
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2012, 12:05:AM » |
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I disagree.
Gingrich would be better than Obama in every objective measure. Better is not necessarily 'good.' But, Ging will reverse Obamacare, at bare minimum with regards to forced birth control/chemical abortion.
Obama actually argued in favor of infanticide. Remember that: in IL he was in favor of murdering a completely 100% birthed child. That's Baal/Moloch level evil man.
I would not be so convinced that Gingrich will make good on his word. The man has trouble keeping marriage vows, a much graver matter. Plus, he is a progressive in conservative clothing. His own record and statements show this to be the case. If he gets to the White House, he'll come up with some more of his famous compromises, which will leave conservatives who voted for him kicking themselves. I know not everyone thinks like me, but if I were given a choice between Gingrich and Obama, I would choose neither. To me, a vote is a sign of confidence in the leadership, integrity, and competence of the person for whom I'm voting. That is why in my voting life, I have only ever voted for Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul, and Chuck Baldwin in presidential elections. I know some of you call this "throwing away" my vote, but I sleep better at night knowing I did not consent to the continued destruction of this country.
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2012, 06:34:AM » |
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I would not be so convinced that Gingrich will make good on his word. The man has trouble keeping marriage vows, a much graver matter.
This is objectively wrong, and seriously wrong. Supporting abortion and birth control are far graver sins than adultery.
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2012, 10:50:AM » |
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I would not be so convinced that Gingrich will make good on his word. The man has trouble keeping marriage vows, a much graver matter.
This is objectively wrong, and seriously wrong. Supporting abortion and birth control are far graver sins than adultery. I was pointing out his inability to keep commitments. This includes his commitments in the political arena. He is a notorious flip-flopper, whether it is a campaign promise or a marriage vow.
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