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Author Topic: Cardinal Dolan's 7 Point Plan for Evangelization  (Read 2594 times)
Magdalene
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« on: February 19, 2012, 09:41:PM »


VATICAN CITY, FEB. 17, 2012 (Zenit.org).- Hours before receiving the red hat, Cardinal-designate Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York, offered his soon-to-be brothers in the College of Cardinals a seven-point reflection on evangelization.

Cardinal-designate Dolan was chosen by the Pope to address the group for today's Day of Reflection and Prayer on the vigil of the consistory.

The New York archbishop recommended the following seven pointers:

1) Remembering that even those who boast of their secularism have an innate longing for the divine; the first step of evangelization must be to keep the quest for God alive

2) "Be not afraid" -- confident, without being triumphalist, since it is the power of God who sends his people to evangelize

3) Knowing that the new evangelization is not about presenting a doctrine or belief-system, but a Person, whose name is Jesus

4) Nevertheless, this Jesus is the Truth. Hence, evangelization is linked to catechesis

5) An evangelist must be a person of joy -- someone who smiles

6) The new evangelization is about love -- the love of God made concrete in service

7) Finally, martyrdom. A reminder that the Church is now peopled by those who are suffering persecution for their faith, and that these martyrs give impetus to the new evangelization
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 09:46:PM »

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Knowing that the new evangelization is not about presenting a doctrine or belief-system, but a Person, whose name is Jesus

This is a really weird "point" of seven to make.  I don't trust it.

And I don't understand the "new" evangelization.  I've heard this phrase for a year or two now.  Sounds like a bunch of nonesense.  What was wrong with the "old" evangelization, the one that more or less united the Western World? 
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 09:48:PM »


VATICAN CITY, FEB. 17, 2012 (Zenit.org).- Hours before receiving the red hat, Cardinal-designate Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York, offered his soon-to-be brothers in the College of Cardinals a seven-point reflection on evangelization.

Cardinal-designate Dolan was chosen by the Pope to address the group for today's Day of Reflection and Prayer on the vigil of the consistory.

The New York archbishop recommended the following seven pointers:

1) Remembering that even those who boast of their secularism have an innate longing for the divine; the first step of evangelization must be to keep the quest for God alive

2) "Be not afraid" -- confident, without being triumphalist, since it is the power of God who sends his people to evangelize

3) Knowing that the new evangelization is not about presenting a doctrine or belief-system, but a Person, whose name is Jesus

4) Nevertheless, this Jesus is the Truth. Hence, evangelization is linked to catechesis

5) An evangelist must be a person of joy -- someone who smiles

6) The new evangelization is about love -- the love of God made concrete in service

7) Finally, martyrdom. A reminder that the Church is now peopled by those who are suffering persecution for their faith, and that these martyrs give impetus to the new evangelization


The Seven Habits of Highly Effective Springtime Evangelization.

Yay!
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 09:54:PM »

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Knowing that the new evangelization is not about presenting a doctrine or belief-system, but a Person, whose name is Jesus

This is a really weird "point" of seven to make.  I don't trust it.

And I don't understand the "new" evangelization.  I've heard this phrase for a year or two now.  Sounds like a bunch of nonesense.  What was wrong with the "old" evangelization, the one that more or less united the Western World? 


It's Conciliar newspeak.

What was wrong with the old evangelization? For one thing, it wasn't new! For the Conciliar cult, this alone is enough to dismiss it.

Also, it was far, far too triumphalist, doctrinal, austere, and hateful. They hadn't yet learned to love and smile and hug and hold hands and dance and be fuzzy and grovel like the Conciliarists. And of course they knew little of martyrdom.

O happy age!
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"In a flame of fire, giving vengeance to them who know not God, and who obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Who shall suffer eternal punishment in destruction, from the face of the Lord, and from the glory of his power.... And in all seduction of iniquity to them that perish; because they receive not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity."

-2. Thes. 1:8-9; 2:10-11
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 09:54:PM »

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Knowing that the new evangelization is not about presenting a doctrine or belief-system, but a Person, whose name is Jesus

This is a really weird "point" of seven to make.  I don't trust it.

And I don't understand the "new" evangelization.  I've heard this phrase for a year or two now.  Sounds like a bunch of nonesense.  What was wrong with the "old" evangelization, the one that more or less united the Western World? 


A while ago the Vatican released directives for the New Evangelization and the "Year of Faith". As always some good stuff mixed in with bad stuff. So much of the catechesis focused on the documents of Vatican II and, apparently, a key aspect of evangelization is ecumenism and inter-faith dialogue  Huh?. It's like they never learn; and they try to fix the problem by applying the same poison packaged in a slightly different bottle.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 09:59:PM »

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Knowing that the new evangelization is not about presenting a doctrine or belief-system, but a Person, whose name is Jesus

This is a really weird "point" of seven to make.  I don't trust it.

And I don't understand the "new" evangelization.  I've heard this phrase for a year or two now.  Sounds like a bunch of nonesense.  What was wrong with the "old" evangelization, the one that more or less united the Western World? 


It's like Chavez's "Socialism of the 21st Century"

It's the same poison in a different bottle. The poison is ecumenism, the bottle says "new evangelization"

EDIT: hehe, Aragon used the same poison analogy, go figure Grin
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 10:03:PM »

The old evangelization involved converting King Clovis, which led to the conversion of his people. A good plan, but I'm not sure that it would work in the present situation.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 10:15:PM »

 By their fruits you shall know them- http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ChJew_31/5510_31.htm  
Just to touch on a few points of the seven. #3-Catholicism was started by Christ and has a belief/doctrine system that we must preach about.
#4-Speaking of Jesus as man as well as God, it is very true the Our Lord is Truth.  It can certainly be wondered why he would expose over 100 Catholic school children under his care to supper that has been superceded by the New Covenant's rites, which is against the faith.  That celebration does no objective good and Cathoics cannot take part of heap praise on it's current use.
   Is he speaking to the those in attendance there that the Messiah has come, His name is Jesus Christ, and that they need to convert to the one true faith, Catholicism, in order to, by dying in the state of grace, obtain eternal salvation?  Does he tell them that their covenant is no longer valid, that the prophecies spoken of in the Old Testament concerning the Savior have been fulfilled by Christ?
   To truly love someone is to do your best to show them the truth concerning Christ, not condoning them in their errors by not only words, but by your physical presence at a supper that purports that the Savior that you recognise has not yet come?  
  Saying that you want to be a "happy bishop" is not what is necessary. 
Smiling has it's place.
But, Where has been Holy Outrage, and sanctions where needed?

  It will be difficult to be a martyr when the going gets tough if in the "good"(relavitively non-violent) times one can't stand up and speak the unadulterad truth.
  Do not look to this crop of men to shine the light of the Truth of the Church during this age of apostasy.  Piecemeal preaching(at best) will not do the trick.  
   Our Lady, Queen of the Clergy, pray that we receive true spiritual shepherds.

  Joe
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 10:22:PM »

You know it's funny. I heard before this piece the new evangelization purpose was to get those that have left to return. I must have been dreaming.

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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 10:28:PM »


Cardinal-designate Dolan was chosen by the Pope to address the group for today's Day of Reflection and Prayer on the vigil of the consistory.

The New York archbishop recommended the following seven pointers:

1) Remembering that even those who boast of their secularism have an innate longing for the divine; the first step of evangelization must be to keep the quest for God alive

They are also like all of us are ordered toward sin and they like us have free will. And so consequently some have willfully chosen to reject God, His Church and are our enemies.

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2) "Be not afraid" -- confident, without being triumphalist, since it is the power of God who sends his people to evangelize

But do be afraid of giving the impression that you are indifferent or that the dogmas and privileges of the Church are on the same level as man-made religions and churches. 

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3) Knowing that the new evangelization is not about presenting a doctrine or belief-system, but a Person, whose name is Jesus.

Who gave the great commission to the Church to teach a belief system that He gave to us from the Father.

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4) Nevertheless, this Jesus is the Truth. Hence, evangelization is linked to catechesis

In other words a doctrine and system of belief. But don't evangelize a person with the Truth. 

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5) An evangelist must be a person of joy -- someone who smiles

Villians and devils smile alot as well. How about distinguishing joy from happiness? 

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6) The new evangelization is about love -- the love of God made concrete in service

Only if directed towards the salvation of souls, a full stomach with an empty soul is a tragedy. 

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7) Finally, martyrdom. A reminder that the Church is now peopled by those who are suffering persecution for their faith, and that these martyrs give impetus to the new evangelization

Will the Cardinal designate be standing in the front lines of that persecution as he wears the red signifying that he'll shed his blood for the faith?  Will he die for Christ and presenting the message of His sacrifice on the Cross? The necessity of His Church for the salvation of any soul that desires to be saved?  Will he die for the sacraments Christ Himself gave to the one and only Church He established? 

Or will the Cardinal lay down his life for the "inate longing for the Divine" by the Churches sworn enemies or will he be defending the faithful from those enemies? 

Will he die for "non-triumphalism?"

Will he die to prevent the doctrine and belief system that God revealed to man from being presented? 

Will he die to make sure that those who want to know and love the 2nd Person of the Trinity, God made man know His teaching without one jot nor tittle missing? 

Will he die to make sure that the evangelization of Love is about servicing the needs of souls more than bodies? 

I for one think the bishop is full of crap. He wants to be a social worker with a mascot named Jesus. 

This kind of insipid milquetoast "rallying cry" wouldn't attract ants at a picnic if it were smeared with jelly.  This bishop's talk isn't even worth the walk. 
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