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« Reply #60 on: February 24, 2012, 05:02:PM » |
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From the main site here: "If you have a hard time memorizing (which is OK!), you can pray aloud using your own words to the same effect -- i.e., expressing your contrition for having displeased God and resolving to sin no more and avoid the near occasions of sin -- but you should try to memorize the traditional Act of Contrition and teach it to your children. You can also have the prayer written out or on a Holy Card to carry with you in the Confessional. (Note: a "near occasion of sin" is a situation in which you are likely to sin. For ex., going to the mall might be a "near occasion of sin" for a kleptomaniac who hasn't learned to control his behavior; keeping company alone with a girl he is extremely attracted to in a sexual way might be a near occasion of sin for a man, etc.)" http://fisheaters.com/penance.html |
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« Reply #61 on: February 24, 2012, 06:43:PM » |
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There are multiple Acts of Contrition, too. If the standard AoC is not printed and posted in the confessional, I just say "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God, have mercy on me, a sinner."
 Don't you know the traditional one with "heartily sorry" is required for validity in the Latin rite? Where did you hear that? That's not true. Some prayer of contrition is usually asked for, but it isn't actually even a necessary component of the Sacrament. Sorry, I was joking but I guess that didn't come across! |
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« Reply #62 on: February 24, 2012, 06:45:PM » |
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There are multiple Acts of Contrition, too. If the standard AoC is not printed and posted in the confessional, I just say "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God, have mercy on me, a sinner."
Don't you know the traditional one with "heartily sorry" is required for validity in the Latin rite? Where did you hear that? That's not true. Some prayer of contrition is usually asked for, but it isn't actually even a necessary component of the Sacrament. Sorry, I was joking but I guess that didn't come across! LOL, the problem with being joke-scrupulous is that it is never more over the top than the real thing.  I think we can all agree that regular confession is good, to get back on topic. |
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« Reply #63 on: February 24, 2012, 06:55:PM » |
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I've been thinking of compiling a list of all the things we come up with in this thread, so they will all be in one spot. Would anyone find that helpful? Or do you think it is easy enough to read for the thread for them?
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« Reply #64 on: February 24, 2012, 07:51:PM » |
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Does anyone know why it's a second Confiteor instead of an Act of Contrition? I've always wondered why the AOC was left out of the formality of the Mass.
Because the Confiteor is liturgical (from both the Mass and the Office) and the AOC is a private devotional Act? Thanks! You learn something new every day.  |
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« Reply #65 on: February 24, 2012, 09:25:PM » |
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I am asking for people to suggest things we all agree on. I didn't read the rest of the thread but I'd say: Apostles' Creed. Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. Chalcedonian Creed. Athanasian Creed. Tridentine dogmatic definitions of the Sacraments and the Canon of Scripture. Vatican I's dogmatic definition of Papal infallibility. Marian devotions of all sorts, with special emphasis on Fatima. Pius IX's Syllabus of Errors. Pius X's condemnation of Modernism. Distrust or condemnation of Vatican II and its aftermath. Distrust or condemnation of the Pauline reformed missal and sacraments. Did I get it all covered? |
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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« Reply #66 on: February 24, 2012, 09:34:PM » |
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I am asking for people to suggest things we all agree on. I didn't read the rest of the thread but I'd say: Apostles' Creed. Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. Chalcedonian Creed. Athanasian Creed. Tridentine dogmatic definitions of the Sacraments and the Canon of Scripture. Vatican I's dogmatic definition of Papal infallibility. Marian devotions of all sorts, with special emphasis on Fatima. Pius IX's Syllabus of Errors. Pius X's condemnation of Modernism. Distrust or condemnation of Vatican II and its aftermath. Distrust or condemnation of the Pauline reformed missal and sacraments. Did I get it all covered? Vetus, I'm in agreement with you, but A) I would add the Creed of the Council of Trent (as amended following Vatican I) and B) point out that we have at least one or two members who would disagree with the 'special emphasis on Fatima'. |
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« Reply #67 on: February 24, 2012, 09:47:PM » |
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I am asking for people to suggest things we all agree on. I didn't read the rest of the thread but I'd say: Apostles' Creed. Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. Chalcedonian Creed. Athanasian Creed. Tridentine dogmatic definitions of the Sacraments and the Canon of Scripture. Vatican I's dogmatic definition of Papal infallibility. Marian devotions of all sorts, with special emphasis on Fatima. Pius IX's Syllabus of Errors. Pius X's condemnation of Modernism. Distrust or condemnation of Vatican II and its aftermath. Distrust or condemnation of the Pauline reformed missal and sacraments. Did I get it all covered? Vetus, I'm in agreement with you, but A) I would add the Creed of the Council of Trent (as amended following Vatican I) and B) point out that we have at least one or two members who would disagree with the 'special emphasis on Fatima'. Sure. Then take out Fatima. |
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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« Reply #68 on: February 26, 2012, 03:00:PM » |
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It would be good if the "second confiteor" was brought back into every offering of the TLM.
 This guy concurs, as do I. |
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« Reply #69 on: February 26, 2012, 03:15:PM » |
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I am asking for people to suggest things we all agree on. I didn't read the rest of the thread but I'd say: Apostles' Creed. Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. Chalcedonian Creed. Athanasian Creed. The first thing that I thought when I asked the question was the Creeds, but I don't think anyone else has mentioned them in this thread yet. |
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