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Neo-Floriano
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« on: February 25, 2012, 08:03:PM »

I've always awoken in the middle of the night. In my pre-Catholic days I used to eat a midnight snack, now I pray (although not recently due to time constraints).

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The myth of the eight-hour sleep
By Stephanie Hegarty
BBC World Service

We often worry about lying awake in the middle of the night - but it could be good for you. A growing body of evidence from both science and history suggests that the eight-hour sleep may be unnatural.

In the early 1990s, psychiatrist Thomas Wehr conducted an experiment in which a group of people were plunged into darkness for 14 hours every day for a month.

It took some time for their sleep to regulate but by the fourth week the subjects had settled into a very distinct sleeping pattern. They slept first for four hours, then woke for one or two hours before falling into a second four-hour sleep.

Though sleep scientists were impressed by the study, among the general public the idea that we must sleep for eight consecutive hours persists.

In 2001, historian Roger Ekirch of Virginia Tech published a seminal paper, drawn from 16 years of research, revealing a wealth of historical evidence that humans used to sleep in two distinct chunks.

His book At Day's Close: Night in Times Past, published four years later, unearths more than 500 references to a segmented sleeping pattern - in diaries, court records, medical books and literature, from Homer's Odyssey to an anthropological account of modern tribes in Nigeria.
A woman tending to her husband in the middle of the night by Jan Saenredam, 1595 Roger Ekirch says this 1595 engraving by Jan Saenredam is evidence of activity at night

Much like the experience of Wehr's subjects, these references describe a first sleep which began about two hours after dusk, followed by waking period of one or two hours and then a second sleep.

"It's not just the number of references - it is the way they refer to it, as if it was common knowledge," Ekirch says.

During this waking period people were quite active. They often got up, went to the toilet or smoked tobacco and some even visited neighbours. Most people stayed in bed, read, wrote and often prayed. Countless prayer manuals from the late 15th Century offered special prayers for the hours in between sleeps.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16964783[quote/]
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2012, 08:13:PM »

Robert Burton recommends seven to eight hours of sleep in The Anatomy of Melancholy.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2012, 08:19:PM »

Oh yeah that's the way to go: two chunks of sleep each night. A little bathroom visit in between, perhaps. For adults, I think that's the way it goes. Kids and teenagers may get 8 hours, but I dare say that anyone who's had a baby in the house never goes back to sleeping straight through the night--at least I never did.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 07:23:PM »

, but I dare say that anyone who's had a baby in the house never goes back to sleeping straight through the night

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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 07:47:PM »

Isn't there something about sleep cycles being about 4 hours long?  I know for myself that it's easier for me to wake from sleep after four hours than after five or six, for whatever reason (though I do prefer having the extra 1 or 2 hours).  Maybe it has something to do with being in a more shallow state of sleep after 4 hours, but then falling into a deeper sleep again.  I also know, for myself as an extremely deep sleeper that after 8 hours of sleeping like a log, I sometimes have some big aches if I have been sleeping in a bad position for that long.  Waking up and moving around for an hour while reading or doing some other restful activity would probably also help with that.  Unfortunately, I usually just get between 4-7 hours of sleep, so there isn't really the option of spending a total of 9 or 10 hours in bed every night.

In societies without electricity I imagine it would be easier to get into this type of sleep pattern, particularly during the winter months.
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 08:55:PM »

That is very interesting... I have slept in this manner for years and always worried that it meant something was wrong...  now I know I AM NORMAL and everyone else is messed up  LOL    Kidding just kidding...  really that is very interesting.
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 10:17:PM »

And don't forget the religious praying the Divine Office at midnight!  St. Benedict wrote in his Rule that the monks should be sure to encourage the sleepy monks when they arise for the night office, which is a little funny (even monks are human). Smile
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 10:31:PM »

If my sleep gets interrupted for any reason I'm a wreck the next day.  I must have continuous, uninterrupted and blissfully dream-free sleep in order to achieve excellence during my waking hours.  7-8 hours is usually plenty for me, but it cannot be disturbed under any circumstances. 

Once there was a brute of some sort squatting in the attic of stately Bombay Manor.  Raccoon or squirrel or something.  The foul creature awakened me numerous times of an evening for about a week with its infernal nocturnal wanderings above my head.  I finally tossed a couple of bug bombs up through the trap door and the wicked creature ceased pestering me. 

I was also occasionally disturbed by footsteps up and down the hall way at night.  I use "footsteps" in an anthropomorphic manner, since it was just the house settling.  Annoying nonetheless and not as easily solved as a rodent in the attic.  I finally bought a loud fan and left it on all night.  Problem solved. 
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 11:39:PM »

If I don't have my 8 hours of deep sleep, there is weeping and gnashing of teeth. It gets ugly around here, and heaven help the poor soul who irritates me. Speaking of weeping and gnashing of teeth, I am not a morning person, and I cannot STAND it when people try to talk to me while I'm having my morning cuppa. I want to be left in peace. Unfortunately, I am cursed blessed with a husband and daughter who are irritatingly cheerful morning people --you know, the type of people who leap out of bed with grins on their faces and start nattering at you interminably.
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2012, 01:24:AM »

I had 8 hours one time.  It was nice.

If I don't have 4 hours...there is wailing and gnashing of teeth.  Very blearily, of course.  And the next day I have to have like 5-6 at least.  I'm with you, Jenn, about being left alone while waking up and doing my coffee thing.

One down side to sleeping so little is that I sleep like a stone.  Nothing will wake me for the first 4 hours, and my wife is always afraid I'll sleep through a burgler loudly smashing into my house.  I probably would.  Sometimes I have had complete conversations while asleep, all while trying to get the other person to go away and let me sleep.  This happened with a college girlfriend who I told to wake me so we could run some errands.  When she woke me up I convinced her that we didn't need to go do the errands.  This happened pretty recently with my wife, too.  My sleepy subconscious basically did a reversal of the thing I wanted to do so that I could get more sleep.  Haha...I think.

If I didn't have to sleep I wouldn't.
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