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« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2012, 04:34:PM » |
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« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2012, 04:35:PM » |
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« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2012, 04:57:PM » |
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I'm sorry I'm too old to buy into this new biological goofiness. That entire thing sounds to me like b s. It's the first step in declaring she wasn't a virgin except in some mystical way so the Prots. won't mind. You see to me this is the problem. Why does it need to be investigated in the light of current science ? Current science has about as much credibility as horse sh**. She's a Perpetual Virgin, so don't go there, all it does is make the intelligentia feel big, and confuse the rest.
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Frankly, you seem to be making the same point as the Bishop. |
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« Reply #23 on: February 29, 2012, 05:02:PM » |
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« Reply #24 on: February 29, 2012, 05:13:PM » |
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Remember, this appointment would come from the theologically-conservative/closet-trad/trad-friendly Pope. I don't think it's appropriate to roll eyes over nothing but a rumor. The fact that these rumors could fly that such a seemingly-unworthy/incompetent/what-have-you bishop could be appointed as prefect of the CDF is beyond me and is telling. |
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« Reply #25 on: February 29, 2012, 06:07:PM » |
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I'm quite sure Mary's perpetual Virginity is a dogma, before and after the birth of Christ.
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Yes, but the question is whether she had a physiologically intact hymen after the birth of Our Lord. Some of the Fathers did say that Christ passed through without breaching it, but it hardly seems necessary to insist on that point. I and others think that it is necessary, because it adds one more barrier to those who are constantly chipping away at Marys perpetual virginity. After all If God chose this one woman above all that ever lived, or ever will live, to be kept immaculate and to give birth to the Saviour of the cosmos, giving her title of The Mother of God, then having her assumed physically into heaven, I see no problem with her being a perpetual virgin physically, i.e physiologically intact hymen. |
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« Reply #26 on: February 29, 2012, 06:45:PM » |
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I'm quite sure Mary's perpetual Virginity is a dogma, before and after the birth of Christ.
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Yes, but the question is whether she had a physiologically intact hymen after the birth of Our Lord. Some of the Fathers did say that Christ passed through without breaching it, but it hardly seems necessary to insist on that point. I and others think that it is necessary, because it adds one more barrier to those who are constantly chipping away at Marys perpetual virginity. After all If God chose this one woman above all that ever lived, or ever will live, to be kept immaculate and to give birth to the Saviour of the cosmos, giving her title of The Mother of God, then having her assumed physically into heaven, I see no problem with her being a perpetual virgin physically, i.e physiologically intacted hymen. Okay. Knock yourself out. If you want to think that Ludwig Ott was trying to chip away at the Blessed Virgin's Perpetual Virginity, be my guest. Seems scrupulous to me, but whatever. |
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« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2012, 10:09:PM » |
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This is making no sense, how anyone would think that you can deliver a baby and remain a virgin ? We were taught Jesus was delivered as a light passes through a pane of glass. On a human level who would ask his mother anything this personal ? This is creepier than anything I've ever heard.
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2012, 02:00:AM » |
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This is making no sense, how anyone would think that you can deliver a baby and remain a virgin ? We were taught Jesus was delivered as a light passes through a pane of glass. On a human level who would ask his mother anything this personal ? This is creepier than anything I've ever heard.
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You are the one who seems concerned with the physiology of the Blessed Virgin's state. The Bishop, following the Scholastic consensus, does not want to view it that way. |
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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2012, 08:00:AM » |
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I'm quite sure Mary's perpetual Virginity is a dogma, before and after the birth of Christ.
tim
Yes, but the question is whether she had a physiologically intact hymen after the birth of Our Lord. Some of the Fathers did say that Christ passed through without breaching it, but it hardly seems necessary to insist on that point. Which side are you on ? The Bishop said she might be some other kind of virgin. He's promoting this. Am I miss reading his words ? tim |
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