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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2012, 08:50:PM » |
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One more thing:
I remember talking with some of the guys I sang with in my secular choir. They laughed at how the would make an easy $75-100 for each Novus Ordo they would "cantor" at. It's sad in two ways: Some do 5 every weekend (Saturday "vigil" and 4 on Sunday) without the need to really practice (one guy I know makes a living essentially doing this. A good guy, but a lukewarm NO Catholic), and the NO churches are really dumping their money. Sad.
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2012, 08:55:PM » |
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I remember the thumbs up on the "Yes" and the L symbol on the "Lord" for this one: |
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2012, 06:38:AM » |
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That vid should've come with MAY INDUCE VOMITING warning. My last boss before i quit and started my own business was into this hypechurch horseshite and would talk to me about it. He took me to a concert in a No church once ...i went as a spie...and I kid you not this goofball rock singer was up there singing the praises of John wesley...standing center altar/table back to the tabernacle (which i found out later was empty...but since it was closed this wouldnt have been understood to any catholics in attendance) there was a bevey of habitted sisters making like whoopie goldburg there dancing around. The whole thing was so horrifying to me I left after 15 min ( I had planned on staying through to get to the end so I could drop the hammer on some heretics at the meet and greet) ...only plus side....on the way out the door I saw a very young priest who was apparently attached to this large NO parish, standing in the lobby visably angery and distressed as I was....it was from him I learned the tabernacle was empty because I said to him I hope to god it was...its obvious to me this was a young orthodox priest stuck in a liberal loony bin.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2012, 02:38:PM » |
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One more thing:
I remember talking with some of the guys I sang with in my secular choir. They laughed at how the would make an easy $75-100 for each Novus Ordo they would "cantor" at. It's sad in two ways: Some do 5 every weekend (Saturday "vigil" and 4 on Sunday) without the need to really practice (one guy I know makes a living essentially doing this. A good guy, but a lukewarm NO Catholic), and the NO churches are really dumping their money. Sad.
A good share of cantors don't get paid, but in these cases, when they sing the same thing over and over again, it's an easy bit of money. Then again, it works that way when you have to play the same hymns over and over again!  |
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2012, 05:21:PM » |
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In our NO days, DH and I walked out of the Christmas vigil Mass after the "celebrant" invited the congregation to give a round of applause for the "entertainers".
We were regularly subjected to many of the same "hymns", Crusader. I hear you on the flashbacks.
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2012, 01:09:PM » |
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I never walked out, but came close several times.
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2012, 11:45:PM » |
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Not all protties are stupid charismatic types and not all Catholics are Kiko's henchmen.
Useful rule of thumb, people.
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2012, 12:03:AM » |
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Not all protties are stupid charismatic types and not all Catholics are Kiko's henchmen.
Useful rule of thumb, people.
Vetus, why do you talk to you fellow Catholics with such a condescending tone ("people"), as though they are so naive as to think that Protestants are stupid charismatic types? Surely, no-one on here said that all Protestants are like that, but some are, and they are the ones being criticized. |
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I n N omine P atris, E t F ilii, E t S piritus S ancti "The practice of the Church has always been the same, as is shown by the unanimous teaching of the Fathers, who were wont to hold as outside Catholic communion, and alien to the Church, whoever would recede in the least degree from any point of doctrine proposed by her authoritative magisterium" (Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum, no. 9, June 29, 1896). “Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time” (2 Peter 1:10).
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2012, 12:31:AM » |
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Some random thoughts …. ...standing center altar/table back to the tabernacle (which i found out later was empty...but since it was closed this wouldnt have been understood to any catholics in attendance) … Depends. THE sign in the Latin Rite that the Blessed Sacrament is present is a lighted Sanctuary Lamp. In my soon to be 6.1 decades, in both pre and post vii praxis, my experience has always been that when the Blessed Sacrament is transferred from the main tabernacle to a chapel or the sacristy the Sanctuary Lamp is transferred with it. This has a two fold purpose: a) there must always be a lighted candle (51% bees wax minimum) or olive oil lamp burning in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament; b) the absence of this light indicates that the Blessed Sacrament is not currently reserved in a particular tabernacle. Most older Catholics at least would know this. There are other “signs” that might also be given, such as the removal of the tabernacle veil (which have not been common in “newer churches” even those built in the 1950’s, but I am observing the veil making a come back), or leaving the tabernacle door open. Still, THE sign that the Sacrament has been removed from a tabernacle is the absence of the lighted lamp.
...only plus side....on the way out the door I saw a very young priest who was apparently attached to this large NO parish, standing in the lobby visably angery and distressed as I was....it was from him I learned the tabernacle was empty because I said to him I hope to god it was...its obvious to me this was a young orthodox priest stuck in a liberal loony bin.
This is a big plus, IMHO ~ one of the ways, perhaps the primary way, the “liberal loony bins” are ever going to be changed is precisely by young orthodox priests being assigned to them. Not all protties are stupid charismatic types and not all Catholics are Kiko's henchmen.
Useful rule of thumb, people.
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2012, 03:35:PM » |
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Not all protties are stupid charismatic types and not all Catholics are Kiko's henchmen.
Useful rule of thumb, people.
Vetus, why do you talk to you fellow Catholics with such a condescending tone ("people"), as though they are so naive as to think that Protestants are stupid charismatic types? Surely, no-one on here said that all Protestants are like that, but some are, and they are the ones being criticized. I did not use nor intented to use a condescending tone. You misinterpreted me. Unfortunately the fact remains that non-Catholic groups (Protestants, Orthodox, Jews, Muslims, Atheists, etc.) are more often than not mischaracterised during the fervor of some self-righteous discussions around here. I've been guilty of doing the same thing quite a few times in the past. |
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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