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« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2012, 07:56:PM »
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Actually I don't see how an archaic language is holy just because it is old.

It is holy in the original sense of that word, which means "separated" and by extension "mysterious". It doesn't mean that the language is more virtuous or something like the later meaning of holy. The Holy Father is holy because he is separate and unique, not because he is a saint. So Latin is a holy language because it is distinct from everyday life. Older English also can have this connotation, like is attributed to the KJ Bible, or the Douay, or saying things like thou or Holy Ghost. These words connote a separation from everyday life.

Hmmm, by that criteria the slang of kids today is to me "separated" and "mysterious" and thus holy. NOT! I get your point though.
I think.
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« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2012, 08:23:PM »
I think the fact that a particular sort of language or what have you has been passed down through time, given from one generation to the next, is also part of it.
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« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2012, 08:59:PM »
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Hmmm, by that criteria the slang of kids today is to me "separated" and "mysterious" and thus holy. NOT! I get your point though.
I think.
C.

Well the primary purpose of sanctification is setting apart from the profane. The mysterious part is that not everyone has access to the sacred, in a sense.

David Crystal wrote some good stuff back in those days to give you an idea of some of the thoughts running through the debate:

http://www.davidcrystal.com/DC_articles/Religion4.pdf
http://www.davidcrystal.com/DC_articles/Religion11.pdf
http://www.davidcrystal.com/DC_articles/Religion14.pdf
http://www.davidcrystal.com/DC_articles/Religion15.pdf
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« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2012, 08:59:PM »
Regarding the OP: It's an invalid Mass. The Modernists and New Religionists don't have nary a care about the translation.  They merely want  to (and have done so to many Catholics) to protestantise those in the Catholic religion and the Holy Catholic Church.  If I were you, I would never pay a mind to the New Religion's Supper on their Bread and Wine Tables. Go to a valid, Tridentine mass or Divine Liturgy. You needn't worry about going any pseudo-Catholic services.

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