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Author Topic: The New Theology and The New Architecture?  (Read 1493 times)
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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2012, 01:38:PM »

Some good stuff in this book. Imagine in 1967 the modernists were already chomping at the bit to replace tradition.





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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2012, 02:18:PM »

I came across this little PDF pamphlet: Architecture and the Liturgy written in 1967. Pretty sad.

It actually is a pro NO pamphlet, complete with Imprimatur, about the new architecture and says the 2 principles behind the new architecture reflects that now; 1) The Church is now the New People of God and 2) Christ is present in his people.

I goes through and talks about removing the altar, altar rails, statues etc. It's only one small example of what people were fed back then to accept the new religion - shame they ate it up.

Fascinating read. Thanks!


Your welcome - I found it fascinating as well - also irritated the heck outta me to see the total bs dished out and ate up.
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« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2012, 02:20:PM »

Some good stuff in this book. Imagine in 1967 the modernists were already chomping at the bit to replace tradition.







There's a bit of that bs now.

To read about how screwed up everyone was - - - they got it all straight now that they set it up so the focus is squarely on the president instead of the Tabernacle. eeerrrrrrrrrr!
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« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2012, 08:00:AM »


There's a bit of that bs now.

To read about how screwed up everyone was - - - they got it all straight now that they set it up so the focus is squarely on the president instead of the Tabernacle. eeerrrrrrrrrr!
Reading it sounded something like: Okay, folks, the tabernacle's too important to be surrounded by a bunch of beautiful things, it's all very distracting, so we're getting rid of statues and any decoration whatsoever. Blank walls, blank walls is what we need to set apart the tabernacle. Well not really the tabernacle, but the altar, so the altar should be lightweight moveable thing, because it's so important (?) The tabernacle really just sits there where everyone's eye is drawn, it's rather undignified, so here's the thing. Put it in a less conspicuous, er I mean, more dignified place, and we'll take the central spot, er I mean, uh, the lowly spot (oh, it's not lowly anymore now that the tabernacle's gone? oh, okay) where everyone's eye is drawn for the presider, because he's acting in persona Christi, (don't ever use Latin again!) and 'cause the presider is important and everything.

But not really.

See, it's offensive to have the altar rail separating us from the presider and from Christ, it seems good, but it isn't, I think. The people are much more important than that now. This way is much, much cooler, folks!

So now we have: No decoration anywhere near the tabernacle and the altar because it competes for their attention. Check.
The altar turned into a lightweight table because it's just that important!!! (I didn't really follow here, but check)
Christ in the Tabernacle moved because he's too important. Check.
The priest moved to the central location, because he's too important. Check.
The rail taken down from the people because Christ in the Tabernacle and of the Altar aren't really too important for the people to be separated from anymore. Check.

So what do we have left as the most important figures in the Mass? The priest, and then the people. Ta da! It's a magic trick!
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« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2012, 08:05:AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bffvidx6s8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bffvidx6s8</a>
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« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2012, 08:08:AM »

Who's Been Changing The Inside of Roman Catholic Churches? And Why?

A Pictorial Comparison of the Altar/Sanctuary of pre-Vatican II Catholic churches with table/worship space in Masonic lodges, post Vatican II Novus Ordo "Catholic" churches, Anglican churches and the United Nations mediation room

http://realnews247.com/altar_comparison_pictorial.htm
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« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2012, 08:57:AM »

Who's Been Changing The Inside of Roman Catholic Churches? And Why?

A Pictorial Comparison of the Altar/Sanctuary of pre-Vatican II Catholic churches with table/worship space in Masonic lodges, post Vatican II Novus Ordo "Catholic" churches, Anglican churches and the United Nations mediation room

http://realnews247.com/altar_comparison_pictorial.htm

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Thanks for the information. I just looked at the pictures, but I'm grateful for this. It makes so much sense.
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