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Author Topic: Official Statement on Transalpine Redemptorists  (Read 2802 times)
JMartyr
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 07:04:PM »

Why did I think they had already been regularised a few years ago and had made compromises to do so?

Didn't some of them split away in order to remain traditionalist?  Will the upcoming canonical regularization require them to (at least sometimes) say the Norvus Ordo Mass?

Yes, I happen to know one, a very good priest  Smile
Yes ,and he is visiting our chapel in June.  Smile
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 08:38:PM »

Oh, Fr. Alphonsus Marie? I hadn't realised he was Transalpine Redemporist. He gave a mission here in February.
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2012, 09:37:PM »

Oh, Fr. Alphonsus Marie? I hadn't realised he was Transalpine Redemporist. He gave a mission here in February.

I was thinking of Fr Nicholas Mary actually  LOL
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2012, 06:53:AM »

Will the upcoming canonical regularization require them to (at least sometimes) say the Norvus Ordo Mass?

No.  And nor would My Lord Bishop of Aberdeen ask them to.
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2012, 12:21:PM »

Will the upcoming canonical regularization require them to (at least sometimes) say the Norvus Ordo Mass?

No.  And nor would My Lord Bishop of Aberdeen ask them to.

Hopefully.
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2012, 10:17:PM »

Why did I think they had already been regularised a few years ago and had made compromises to do so?

I can only guess it's because you never bothered to read the statements made at the time by Fr. Michael Mary on behalf of the Transalpine Redemptorists.
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wsxyz
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2012, 10:24:PM »

Didn't some of them split away in order to remain traditionalist?  Will the upcoming canonical regularization require them to (at least sometimes) say the Norvus Ordo Mass?

Please learn and understand that: Neither the FSSP, nor the ICRSP, nor the IBP, nor the ISPN, nor the Transalpine Redemptorists is EVER required to say the novus ordo mass.

The only thing the Holy See has said about the issue is that no roman-rite priest, no matter what his affiliation, can be barred from celebrating the novus ordo mass if he wishes to do so.

In the case of the Transalpine Redemptorists, they have always made it abundantly clear that they celebrate ONLY the traditional mass. In fact, the direct reason for their decision to seek regularization was the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum, which guaranteed them the right to celebrate only the traditional mass.
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2012, 10:26:PM »

Will the upcoming canonical regularization require them to (at least sometimes) say the Norvus Ordo Mass?

No.  And nor would My Lord Bishop of Aberdeen ask them to.

That's very optimistic of you. I hope you are correct.
It seems hard to believe that the passage of years without a canonical status isn't due to opposition from powerful individuals in the diocese of Aberdeen.
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2012, 01:42:AM »

That's very optimistic of you. I hope you are correct.
It seems hard to believe that the passage of years without a canonical status isn't due to opposition from powerful individuals in the diocese of Aberdeen.

It's been what... 2009?  The old Bishop of Aberdeen I can believe it off but not the current bishop.  Things have been moving very fast or the Redemptorists, and for a lot of traditionalists.  These things aren't meant to happen over-night and you don't get pushed to the head of the queue just because you say the traditional Mass.
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2012, 02:24:AM »

Didn't some of them split away in order to remain traditionalist?  Will the upcoming canonical regularization require them to (at least sometimes) say the Norvus Ordo Mass?

Please learn and understand that: Neither the FSSP, nor the ICRSP, nor the IBP, nor the ISPN, nor the Transalpine Redemptorists is EVER required to say the novus ordo mass.

The only thing the Holy See has said about the issue is that no roman-rite priest, no matter what his affiliation, can be barred from celebrating the novus ordo mass if he wishes to do so.

Ok, that is good to know, thanks.
In the case of the Transalpine Redemptorists, they have always made it abundantly clear that they celebrate ONLY the traditional mass. In fact, the direct reason for their decision to seek regularization was the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum, which guaranteed them the right to celebrate only the traditional mass.

But if no individual priest can be barred from celebrating the novus ordo mass, than how can the Transalpine Redemptorists or other group actually GUARANTEE their claim that they celebrate only the traditional mass?   If any one of the priests chooses to celebrate the novus ordo mass, then the group does NOT celebrate ONLY the traditional mass, no matter how clearly they say that they do. They can speak only of the current state (no priests now say the novus ordo mass).
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