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One of the Ladies said Church teaching does change, and that is the Tradition of the Church. Excommunications need to be handed out to public figures starting yesterday. Listen closely around 7:30 minutes to the "Feminist Theologian." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UNVgSaJw6k&feature=g-vrec |
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 09:00:AM » |
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Listen closely around 7:30 minutes to the "Feminist Theologian."
I agree. This part is so important to hear, because it is one of the largest fault lines that has damaged the Church. The hammer comes at 7:50. Question is, how do you put the genie back in the bottle? |
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 09:24:AM » |
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Wow -- of the three adjectives she used to describe herself, "Catholic feminist theologian," I think only one applies. It is scandalous that she uses the Council as evidence that dogmatic teaching changed, but the Catechism of the Catholic Church is clear on the true teaching of the Council: Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. (CCC 846) I don't know which is worse, the substance of their heresy or their heresy in suggesting that dogmatic teaching could change. People who refuse to believe even the definitive clarification -- if there be any ambiguity -- should simply be expelled. |
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 09:31:AM » |
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Wow -- of the three adjectives she used to describe herself, "Catholic feminist theologian," I think only one applies. It is scandalous that she uses the Council as evidence that dogmatic teaching changed, but the Catechism of the Catholic Church is clear on the true teaching of the Council: Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. (CCC 846) I don't know which is worse, the substance of their heresy or their heresy in suggesting that dogmatic teaching could change. People who refuse to believe even the definitive clarification -- if there be any ambiguity -- should simply be expelled. I think the actual worst thing is to believe dogmatic teaching can change and then to still want to have anything to do with the Church. If dogma can change, it's all a lie. But of course they are not in it for the truth anyway. |
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 11:00:AM » |
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"Catholic feminist theologian" LOL!  Is she being serious? |
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2012, 11:07:AM » |
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That feminist theologian is the logical extension of the type of catechesis that has been taught, where in the absence of solid teaching, good works ala Habitat for Humanity trumps all. I'd bet the feminist theologian as a child made many posters on Eric saegull's movie Love. After love is all you need.
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2012, 11:09:AM » |
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I hope that feminist theologian is publicly condemned and ordered to retract her statements by the heirachy. Won't happen, I know, but sometimes you need some optimism!
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My hope is in Christ, who strengthens the weakest by His Divine help. I can do all in Him who strengthens me. His Power is infinite, and if I lean on him, it will be mine. His Wisdom is infinite, and if I look to Him for counsel, I shall not be deceived. His Goodness is infinite, and if my trust is stayed in Him, I shall not be abandoned.
-- Pope Saint Pius X
For those born after Pius XII, a strong, good Pope is a history lesson and a hope for the future, not a reality we've ever lived. - Gerard
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 06:18:PM » |
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One of the Ladies said Church teaching does change, and that is the Tradition of the Church. Excommunications need to be handed out to public figures starting yesterday. Listen closely around 7:30 minutes to the "Feminist Theologian." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UNVgSaJw6k&feature=g-vrecI liked how Donna Bethell reacted to what the feminist said around 7:30 minutes. She laughed.  |
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 06:20:PM » |
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One of the Ladies said Church teaching does change, and that is the Tradition of the Church. Excommunications need to be handed out to public figures starting yesterday. Listen closely around 7:30 minutes to the "Feminist Theologian." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UNVgSaJw6k&feature=g-vrecI liked how Donna Bethell reacted to what the feminist said around 7:30 minutes. She laughed. Yeah, I'm really glad they at least got someone from Christendom College to do half of the interview. They didn't give her the better slot, but orthodoxy was represented! |
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 09:10:PM » |
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