Phillipus Iacobus
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N. Friburgo (Ed. note: Brazil), May 13, 2012. The 95th Anniversary of the First Apparition of Our Lady of Fátima.
Open letter to my fellow priests, faithful, and friends.
Reading the letter of three Bishops of the Society to the General House and the response of this one by Bishop Fellay and his followers, (this letter has more or less the same mistakes that the ones expressed by Dom Gérard, Bishop Rifan and Father Muñoz) I want to express:
1. Our total adhesion to the SSPX and to its Founder and therefore my absolute support to the three Bishops who remain faithful to the work of Archbishop Lefebvre in whom I place my obedience.
2. My disregard for the authority of Bishop Fellay, due his obstinacy and deviation from the principles of the founder, and for all who share his position of hand over to Rome; my rejection of the position of this bishop founded on his political views deviated from the “Yes, yes- no, no” of the Gospel and also deviated from the principles given by Archbishop Lefebvre.
3. Also, our absolute rejection to any agreement with the modernist Rome, at which this bishop, BF, is dragging us shamelessly in a suicide operation, ignoring the advice of:
a) Our Founder
b): His three brothers in the episcopacy.
c) Several priests over the past few years, who objected with good reason the steps taken towards the communion with a church defined as "post-conciliar" and non-Catholic, who is the enemy of Our Lord and of his universal kingdom; and ended up expelled or resigned to avoid ending up in the unfortunate situation in which we are placed today.
4 For this reason, I make an appeal to the three bishops who remain faithful and have the authority bequeathed by the founder, to take charge of the fraternity to avoid dismantling and dispersal.
5 ° I call upon the faithful members who still keep loyalty, faithfulness and obedience to our founder, to clearly and effectively support our three loyal bishops and remove the support to all the obsequious followers who have allowed with his consent, cooperation and silence the current state of things leading to the irremediable division of the Fraternity.
Because we are confirmed, we are soldiers or Christ the King; we made the anti-modernist oath prior to our ordination, for not to end up in the perjury and apostasy, I urge everyone to take a tough stance on tradition, to direct our efforts to support the defense of the Society, safely boat in which many goals have been reached and in which we have survived the apostasy of our times, while waiting for a real and complete conversion of the Pope and the Eternal Rome.
Confident in the consecration once made by our religious family to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, let’s fight with Her and for Her until the end, Amen.
Father E.J.J. Cardozo
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2012, 05:37:PM » |
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From the sermon pronounced by Fr. Benoît Wailliez, Superior of the Benelux (Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxemburg) District of the Society of Saint Pius X (FSSPX / SSPX), yesterday in Brussels:
(...) You see, my dear faithful, when we talk about the Second Vatican Council, and about one of the grave problems in the Church, we talk immediately about collegiality. That democracy was installed in the Church, where everyone says what he wants, thinks what he wants and opposes everything, even the Pope. Let us pay attention that we will not have that same situation in our Fraternity! We are not a democracy! We do not have collegiality, where everybody can say what he wants, can put things on the Internet, pressure people, leak confidential documents... This is an absolutely lamentable situation! In contrast, my beloved faithful, in an army we follow our leader who has the grace of state to make the decision in this situation. (taken from Rorate Caeli post)
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ADORABLE Saviour, consider my many wants, and grant me those graces which Thou knowest I stand in need of to do Thy will in all things.
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2012, 05:45:PM » |
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communion with a church defined as "post-conciliar" and non-Catholic, So separation from the Church. Setting up "altar against altar". And this is not schism?
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"God's Wrath is Glorious, and I have a front row seat"
"We can not guarantee success. We can only deserve it."
"And who do you say that I Am?" "That one simple question, whether Jesus of Nazareth was God Incarnate, becomes increasingly decisive between people, as history moves forward. .... The answer to this question cuts into human ties and seems to reflect even on the nature of inanimate things. What if: all that is folly in the eyes of the Greeks, and scandal in the eyes of the Jews, ... is Truth?"
And there was no doubt about it -- towards Him we had been running, or from Him we had been running away, but all the time He had been in the center of things.
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2012, 06:09:PM » |
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From the sermon pronounced by Fr. Benoît Wailliez, Superior of the Benelux (Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxemburg) District of the Society of Saint Pius X (FSSPX / SSPX), yesterday in Brussels:
(...) You see, my dear faithful, when we talk about the Second Vatican Council, and about one of the grave problems in the Church, we talk immediately about collegiality. That democracy was installed in the Church, where everyone says what he wants, thinks what he wants and opposes everything, even the Pope. Let us pay attention that we will not have that same situation in our Fraternity! We are not a democracy! We do not have collegiality, where everybody can say what he wants, can put things on the Internet, pressure people, leak confidential documents... This is an absolutely lamentable situation! In contrast, my beloved faithful, in an army we follow our leader who has the grace of state to make the decision in this situation. (taken from Rorate Caeli post) p/quote] In that case why not obey the command of JP2 in 1988? Bit rich for SSPX priests to be selling loyalty and obedience over faith and good conscience. Seems to me there is a state of emergency. Fellay and his Jewish lawyer own all the loot and property and a large chunk of the society do not want a blind hand at Roman holdem
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2012, 06:21:PM » |
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You can be cautious. But it appears that a segment wants no deal, no matter what. Until the deal is made known, calling for "no deal no matter what" is problematic. It carries no defense against the charge of schism.
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"God's Wrath is Glorious, and I have a front row seat"
"We can not guarantee success. We can only deserve it."
"And who do you say that I Am?" "That one simple question, whether Jesus of Nazareth was God Incarnate, becomes increasingly decisive between people, as history moves forward. .... The answer to this question cuts into human ties and seems to reflect even on the nature of inanimate things. What if: all that is folly in the eyes of the Greeks, and scandal in the eyes of the Jews, ... is Truth?"
And there was no doubt about it -- towards Him we had been running, or from Him we had been running away, but all the time He had been in the center of things.
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 06:27:PM » |
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You can be cautious. But it appears that a segment wants no deal, no matter what. Until the deal is made known, calling for "no deal no matter what" is problematic. It carries no defense against the charge of schism.
Gotta agree. Anyone who says this is fooling themselves, they belong at CMRI or SSPV. Saying that matter-of-factly, not trying to be a jerk to our resident sedes. If a person wouldn't go with Rome "no matter what" then it's clear they believe the HOly Ghost has nothing to do with Rome.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 06:34:PM » |
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Are you able to share details of when this letter was published, to whom it was sent, whether or not it is authentic, etc.? Thanks!
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Remember, sometimes when you ask "WWJD?", the answer will be "Knock over all the tables and trash the joint!"
“Nobody's perfect. Well, there was this one guy, but we killed him....”
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Phillipus Iacobus
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 07:08:PM » |
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Are you able to share details of when this letter was published, to whom it was sent, whether or not it is authentic, etc.? Thanks!
It appeared on Radio Cristiandad, a respectable Latin American traditional blog.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 07:10:PM » |
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The SSPX is a complex situation. Some argue that they were in schism. That is a moot point, they were excommunicated. Some (including myself) claim that they were thrown out of the Church, and did not separate themselves from it. They were in exile.
There is the question of whether ABL should have consecrated the bishops. Now the fruits look darn good. At a minimum, it can be stated that the SSPX was a major instrument that the Lord used to preserve Tradition.
And, the faithful who attended SSPX Masses were not considered schismatic based on that fact.
But the SSPX is not wart free. There have been some problems. Ggreg witnessed them firsthand. I have heard from first-hand witnesses myself. There is the question over confession. There is the more serious question about marriage. An SSPX man wants to leave his wife and 7 kids to chase his secretary? He walks into any diocese and gets an AUTOMATIC anullment. Then there is the far more serious concern. Everytime an SSPX priest says Mass, or hears a confession, he legally commits a mortal sin. He has his defense, sure enough. But does he really want to roll the dice on eternal damnation like that?
So Rome lifts the excommunications and calls back the SSPX. They respond to Rome's call. What appears likely is that Bishop Fellay, a majority of the priests, and a majority of the Faithful will end up in an officially recognized de facto Latin Rite. The 3 other bishops, many priests, and many faithful will split off.
They admit it, they will separate themselves from Rome, refuse submission to the Pontiff, and set up altar against altar. I have to give it to the sede's, at least they have a rational argument. Perhaps this group will go sede. Fr. Cardozo seems like he already is. How can you maintain that the Pope is the Pope when you say the church is not Catholic?
And if the 3 bishops leave, will the SSPX get to have replacement bishops?
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"God's Wrath is Glorious, and I have a front row seat"
"We can not guarantee success. We can only deserve it."
"And who do you say that I Am?" "That one simple question, whether Jesus of Nazareth was God Incarnate, becomes increasingly decisive between people, as history moves forward. .... The answer to this question cuts into human ties and seems to reflect even on the nature of inanimate things. What if: all that is folly in the eyes of the Greeks, and scandal in the eyes of the Jews, ... is Truth?"
And there was no doubt about it -- towards Him we had been running, or from Him we had been running away, but all the time He had been in the center of things.
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