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jonbhorton
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« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2012, 03:26:AM »

Noted. Apologies for any mix up.

I'd edit per your correction, but it appears this option goes away after a certain time period. Or have I had permissions leashed?
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« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2012, 05:01:AM »

We are sooooo much weaker than we realize. Our military is our might, not our citizen. Our citizen got soft due to a strong military. Anyone got a fiddle?

Has a strong military been necessary since WWII? Why have a strong army when someone in NORAD or a submarine can press a button and launch a nuke?

Numbers don't make military might in totality. Our weapons arsenal is part and parcel to our might. China's arsenal has some weaknesses, but they have numbers and good kit overall. We have kit without the numbers of cannon fodder. The all-volunteer military actually serves to weaken the average citizen as a potential asset of home defense. The mentality in many countries of "I did my 2 years, I'm done" weakens the system of conscription as a springboard to continual defenders of home. A more proper system conscripts all, allows volunteer careerists, and implements a reserve function until a certain age. In short, we no longer have a proper understanding of militia and the duty of able-bodied males to national defense because of our hardware, technology and the reduction of needed manpower.

The mentality of the citizenry becomes one of demand to be served instead of to serve because "someone else will do it".

Give me a gun and explosives and a good reason to use them in a just war or as a guerilla against invaders and you'd find I was pretty ruthless and effective.

Soldiers are generally speaking morons who join the Army because they cannot think of anything better to do in peacetime.  The British made a pigs ear of Northern Ireland and the US are making a pigs ear of Iraq and Afghanistan.  Meanwhile all those young men who would have been in national service and paying taxes to support the billions it costs to be there.

Islamic terrorists are morons - they have to believe that blowing themselves up for their false (and very stupid) religion makes sense.  72 Virgins?  Come on, that is just stupid.  Allah can't think of anything better than making paradise an eternal private brothel.  Talk about thinking with their private parts!

Put the backs of intelligent people to the wall giving them no option but to fight and they would soon figure out how to inflict the maximum damage.  Even Iran worked out how to trick a spy-plane to the ground.

This is why Al Qaeda were potentially very threatening in 2001 because we, mistakenly, assumed that more than a handful would be intelligent.

I can think of at least 30 ways to kill several hundred people per attack without even needing access to restricted materials.   The secret Al-Qaeda cells who are supposed to be hidden inside the US and Britain have done nothing like them in the last 10 years.  Even the Irish, who are not known for their intelligence did a lot more damage.  Eventually they figured out that they should attack the financial district of London, they did several times and the banks threatened to leave the UK and set up elsewhere.  The UK Government made peace with the terrorists despite saying for years that there would be no negotiation.
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« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2012, 07:27:AM »

Conscription based on the modern morals of godless zionist standing army of the global empire is a nonstarter for me. Feminism...homosexualism...a strong and deliberatly encouraged clture of porn in the ranks...and a global agenda is not to be supported with the blood of my children. As Gregg says...put an average hard working american male who is living an honest life against the wall and that is where a patriot is born. HOWEVER in this modern era....american patriots will be facing a secret police apparatus of unparralelled technological prowess and unimaginable ruthlessness. So there will be staggering losses on the side of the good americans at first. Maybe for a decade before patriotic americans begin to reverse the tide. That is at least what I see.
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« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2012, 08:17:AM »

Conscription based on the modern morals of godless zionist standing army of the global empire is a nonstarter for me. Feminism...homosexualism...a strong and deliberatly encouraged clture of porn in the ranks...and a global agenda is not to be supported with the blood of my children. As Gregg says...put an average hard working american male who is living an honest life against the wall and that is where a patriot is born. HOWEVER in this modern era....american patriots will be facing a secret police apparatus of unparralelled technological prowess and unimaginable ruthlessness. So there will be staggering losses on the side of the good americans at first. Maybe for a decade before patriotic americans begin to reverse the tide. That is at least what I see.

To hold this position on conscription without abject hypocrisy, you will need to include the immediate, final and unequivocal stopping of all Federal income tax payments, as well as cancel your cable.

I hold this position as well in terms of the current administration, but I don't have TV and I haven't paid taxes since 2009. Smile I try to keep it real like that.
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« Reply #64 on: June 22, 2012, 04:14:PM »

Conscription based on the modern morals of godless zionist standing army of the global empire is a nonstarter for me. Feminism...homosexualism...a strong and deliberatly encouraged clture of porn in the ranks...and a global agenda is not to be supported with the blood of my children. As Gregg says...put an average hard working american male who is living an honest life against the wall and that is where a patriot is born. HOWEVER in this modern era....american patriots will be facing a secret police apparatus of unparralelled technological prowess and unimaginable ruthlessness. So there will be staggering losses on the side of the good americans at first. Maybe for a decade before patriotic americans begin to reverse the tide. That is at least what I see.

To hold this position on conscription without abject hypocrisy, you will need to include the immediate, final and unequivocal stopping of all Federal income tax payments, as well as cancel your cable.

I hold this position as well in terms of the current administration, but I don't have TV and I haven't paid taxes since 2009. Smile I try to keep it real like that.
I dont pay taxes they are stolen from me by force...so I follow Christs admonition to offer all that is demanded with prudence. Not hypocrisy...further Catholic teaching denys the state the right to conscript the unwilling. And while I admire much about you mr horton...you seem to be lacking common sense and discretion...why would you admit to such a thing in a public forum.
PS the last President to have a truly constitutional position in regards to military force and a proper foreign policy would have been Jefferson I think.
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« Reply #65 on: June 22, 2012, 04:21:PM »

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PS the last President to have a truly constitutional position in regards to military force and a proper foreign policy would have been Jefferson I think.

Except when it came to the Louisiana Exchange, right?

I also agree with you on income tax. I pay because I don't want to end up like Wesley Snipes.
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« Reply #66 on: June 22, 2012, 06:45:PM »

Conscription based on the modern morals of godless zionist standing army of the global empire is a nonstarter for me. Feminism...homosexualism...a strong and deliberatly encouraged clture of porn in the ranks...and a global agenda is not to be supported with the blood of my children. As Gregg says...put an average hard working american male who is living an honest life against the wall and that is where a patriot is born. HOWEVER in this modern era....american patriots will be facing a secret police apparatus of unparralelled technological prowess and unimaginable ruthlessness. So there will be staggering losses on the side of the good americans at first. Maybe for a decade before patriotic americans begin to reverse the tide. That is at least what I see.

To hold this position on conscription without abject hypocrisy, you will need to include the immediate, final and unequivocal stopping of all Federal income tax payments, as well as cancel your cable.

I hold this position as well in terms of the current administration, but I don't have TV and I haven't paid taxes since 2009. Smile I try to keep it real like that.
I dont pay taxes they are stolen from me by force...so I follow Christs admonition to offer all that is demanded with prudence. Not hypocrisy...further Catholic teaching denys the state the right to conscript the unwilling. And while I admire much about you mr horton...you seem to be lacking common sense and discretion...why would you admit to such a thing in a public forum.
PS the last President to have a truly constitutional position in regards to military force and a proper foreign policy would have been Jefferson I think.

Stolen by force? You can opt out of automatic income tax withholding. Consult a tax professional. At the very least it means you spend or tithe that money when it's still worth what it says it's worth.

Let's think about what is really happening by using your tax return as an example. What the government did was overcharge you a whole bunch of money at X amount and earned interest on it. They then return your X amount in a market which has progressed to Y inflation, leaving the X amount of devalued from its worth when you gave it, while they made money in the process. Christ commands us to engage in this sort of evil? It's reverse investment, with the little guy left holding the bag. THAT is the issue with interest on loans at injurious rates, or for those who obviously are placed in a corner and forced to sign but by necessity. Usury is not just interest, but injurious interest, or interest charged to those who are hurt by the burden. Islamic divestment from the practice of Usury is false. What the Islamic method does is this:

I want to buy a house in beautiful downtown Dearborn, MI. It's $200,000 American. Total interest on the loan over the period of the loan at market prices would be... $40k total (just throwing a number out). We're now left with 200k HOUSE and 40k INTEREST. So what the lender does is just charge you $240k with "no" interest. Ahem... uh...  Huh? Eye-roll LOL ... still interest/their definition of usury, just dolled up in a burqa and sugarcoated in stupidity.

Back to the Fed:

 Further, they then take money and use it to pay off debt they incurred in your name without even the true legal, constitutional way to do so. And every year Americans get giddy at getting back their money which is now more worthless than when they gave it in the first place. The addition of the Federal Reserve's "we'll just print more" model exacerbates the problem because now our paper, fiat currency is hardly even worth the paper it's printed on. Coins, especially in today's rising metal market, are even more of a vacuum in this system. This reality, combined with the Orwellian agenda being pursued, leads us only to the next obvious step: electronic "money". We're basically already there, but it's not official with the paper and metal still floating around. Electronic money totally screws up the deal because we then have no real currency. We just have what is essentially a debit card with a limit for the US Treasury. This is pretty much the case around the whole world, at least in places that bartering has lost flavor. That means they have to start really cracking down on things. It necessitates a totalitarian regime, massive governmental manipulation and falsely-retarded currency value lest everything explode. In short, the government can, at any time, take all your money since it's no longer tangible. They can also take it in a sort of ipso facto manner by just manipulating the market to make your $1000 today buy a loaf of bread tomorrow. It happened with paper, why not the more easily manipulated e-money? Or what about if they manipulate to make your loaf of bread yesterday worth $1000 today? Everyone would love that. Materialism's wet dream right there. Everything you've always wanted? Take this chip.

This isn't even going into the moral culpability we face for essentially investing in the programs the government supports, Planned Parenthood being a huge one. Though PP "doesn't" use that money for abortion related expenses, they're an abortion clinic. What we are actually seeing in the .gov is they are, with our money, subsidizing the non-abortive costs so that PP makes profit on abortion. We are affecting the profit on baby murder.


Why would I admit it on a public forum? If I do or don't, don't ya think the IRS would catch it- if not sooner, at least later? I mention it because people who are truly wanting to make that leap need to know there are indeed others who have. I mention it because people need to realize that just because they're "not" subsidizing baby murder, they are.

"For 86 years I have been His servant, and He has done me no wrong; how can I blaspheme my King who saved me?"- St. Polycarp when asked to just throw a pinch of incense in worship to Caesar. He could have done it without "really" worshiping Caesar in his heart, but that semantics game doesn't fly with Christ. The incense burning is, if we apply typology, as much a type of the mark of the beast as islamic dhimmitude. The action holds the meaning, not the intent. St. Polycarp could not have thrown his pinch of incense with a silent prayer of "incense to you, Jesus!" because everyone would have just seen him offering it in the appearance of worship to Caesar.

I'm not judging. I know that there are certain situations where getting out of automatic withholding is a nightmare of paperwork. No matter how they may force our hand to incense and try to place it where they want the incense dropped, we must struggle. For some, that means pulling a St. Polycarp and refusing outright. For others, just because their hand is forced into the incense doesn't mean we don't do our best to rip our arm away and take what may come.

The intersection of Prudence Pl. and Abject Evil Ave. is a confusing choice on this journey of life. For many, there is only one or two times they will be at that crossroads as something in the same vein as taxes are concerned. May Christ point you in the direction, because sometimes hoodlums steal or destroy the signs and we're just left with a 50% chance of being right.

In the meantime, for me, "for 86 years..."
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« Reply #67 on: June 22, 2012, 07:25:PM »

Tax protesters go to jail. That is force. If you think a father pf five and husband should go to jail rather the n payoff the govt mafia...then you are confusing much. If uou are forced at gunpoint to build a bridge for the enemy you are not morally culpable...the pinch of incense is a false comparison
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« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2012, 07:30:PM »

So all the people who ever stood up in history were single young men? None had kids? Wife? Good life if they just kept going along to get along?

No.

If you are forced to build a bridge for the enemy in... what situation? Culpability must include the entirety of the situation. Do I know that the bridge will let tanks roll in to murder my entire village? Or is this long into an occupation and they just need a better supply route? Either way, kill me. I ain't building the friggin bridge.

It's not a false comparison at all. They tried to force him by threatening the death penalty, which they did. It's just incense after all. ;)

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« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2012, 09:58:PM »

I have other battles to fight. And BTW I have spent jail time for blocking abortion clinics. The fact is if you want to continue this purist line...you really need to leave the USA all together since its a freemasonic construct with condemned concepts enshrined in its entire edifice ...so can I accuse you of hypocricy because you wont leave the USA
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