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newyorkcatholic
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2012, 02:33:PM »

I'll do Matins.  1960, but anticipated the day before.  I have a train commute so my goal is actually to say the complete 1960 office daily - but I will for now commit just to Matins since that's what we need.

Random note: I used to be more scrupulous about when I said the hours, but I wouldn't get them all in.  Now I am basically saying Lauds-Prime-Tierce-Sext on my morning commute and None-Vespers-Compline-Matins on my evening commute.  It's not ideal or monklike, but this way I saw the whole office daily (so far).  And since it's during my commute, it doesn't interfere with my primary duties at work and home.
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2012, 02:48:PM »

Well said NYC. Even my times are not right like a monk. I'm sure it's better to say the office than to get hung up on times, and not pray. Do you have a long commute ? That's a lot of hours on a one way trip !

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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2012, 02:59:PM »

So when is the proposed start date?
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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2012, 03:03:PM »

Well said NYC. Even my times are not right like a monk. I'm sure it's better to say the office than to get hung up on times, and not pray. Do you have a long commute ? That's a lot of hours on a one way trip !

tim

It's about 1.5 hrs each way, for now.
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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2012, 05:23:PM »

I almost always say the whole office (Divino Afflatu) every day, so you can put me down for any hours that are lacking - I will make sure never to fail in the hour I'm assigned.
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« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2012, 07:18:PM »

Howdy Aquinas, I don't have a star wars character name for you but you are a Jedi for sure.  It looks as if everyone has chosen and we have all the hours covered, so I believe we are good to go. One thing I'm going to try adding the little hours to my office and see how that goes. Maybe as we go we all will add to their hours. If something changes we can start another thread here to let everyone know.



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« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2012, 11:17:PM »

By the way, Tim, I think this is a great idea.  Since we are coming together through this site, perhaps we could specifically add to our intentions in praying the office the prayer requests people make on this site.  Remembering Vox and the good that has come from this site would also be a worthy intention; the main site is a wealth of information, particularly concerning customs, which is important to someone like me who grew up Protestant.  And the forum has been invaluable in learning the Office, particularly pre-1960 forms, and I am happy to see so many people over the last few years learning as well.

"Orate pro invicem ut salvemini" (James 5:16)
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Sicut canis qui revertitur ad vomitum suum, sic imprudens qui iterat stultitiam suam. (Prov. 26:11)

Esse nihil dicis quidquid petis, inprobe Cinna:
si nil, Cinna, petis, nil tibi, Cinna, nego. (Martial 3.61)
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« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2012, 05:29:AM »

By the way, Tim, I think this is a great idea.  Since we are coming together through this site, perhaps we could specifically add to our intentions in praying the office the prayer requests people make on this site.  Remembering Vox and the good that has come from this site would also be a worthy intention; the main site is a wealth of information, particularly concerning customs, which is important to someone like me who grew up Protestant.  And the forum has been invaluable in learning the Office, particularly pre-1960 forms, and I am happy to see so many people over the last few years learning as well.

"Orate pro invicem ut salvemini" (James 5:16)

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« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2012, 08:45:AM »

By the way, Tim, I think this is a great idea.  Since we are coming together through this site, perhaps we could specifically add to our intentions in praying the office the prayer requests people make on this site.  Remembering Vox and the good that has come from this site would also be a worthy intention; the main site is a wealth of information, particularly concerning customs, which is important to someone like me who grew up Protestant.  And the forum has been invaluable in learning the Office, particularly pre-1960 forms, and I am happy to see so many people over the last few years learning as well.

"Orate pro invicem ut salvemini" (James 5:16)

This exactly what we need. We should offer this up as prayer for Vox and this site, all those here in need of prayers, past, present, and future. Perhaps we can find a collect which fits our needs. I'm thinking of a Benedictine one for this, but it's for the dead, relatives, benefacors, and brethren. The good which has come from this site is immeasurable, me included.

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« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2012, 05:53:PM »

We should offer this up as prayer for Vox and this site, all those here in need of prayers, past, present, and future. Perhaps we can find a collect which fits our needs. I'm thinking of a Benedictine one for this, but it's for the dead, relatives, benefacors, and brethren. The good which has come from this site is immeasurable, me included.

The collect that first comes to mind is this one, Pro vivis et defunctis from the Orationes Diversae in the Missale Romanum; it is also the final collect said after the Litany of the Saints:

Omnípotens sempitérne Deus, qui vivórum domináris simul et mortuórum, omniúmque miseréris, quos tuos fide et ópere futúros esse praenóscis: te súpplices exorámus ; ut, pro quibus effúndere preces decrévimus, quosque vel praesens saéculum adhuc in carne rétinet, vel futúrum jam exútos córpore suscépit, intercedéntibus ómnibus Sanctis tuis, pietátis tuae cleméntia ómnium delictórum suórum véniam consequántur. Per Dóminum.

My St. Joseph Missal translates it like this (I restored the archaic forms):

Almighty, everlasting God, thou hast dominion over the living and the dead, and thou art merciful to all whom thou foreknowest will be thine by faith and good works; we humbly beg thee that those for whom we intend to pour forth our prayers, whether this present world still detain them in the flesh, or the world to come has already received them out of their bodies, may, through the intercession of all thy Saints, by the clemency of thy goodness, obtain the remission of all their sins.  Through.

Adding it as a commemoration would need an antiphon and a v/r, and would not really be sanctioned by the rubrics, though as laypersons praying the Office ex devotione, I think we have some latitude.  Another option might be to add this collect between the Aperi, Domine (if you say it) and the Pater before the hours.
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Sicut canis qui revertitur ad vomitum suum, sic imprudens qui iterat stultitiam suam. (Prov. 26:11)

Esse nihil dicis quidquid petis, inprobe Cinna:
si nil, Cinna, petis, nil tibi, Cinna, nego. (Martial 3.61)
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