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Author Topic: are the democrats the future?  (Read 591 times)
Brennus
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« on: June 30, 2005, 11:35:PM »

It seems to me that the Republican party has done a good job of winning the hearts of the American people. Having done so, they promptly head down to Washington and sell the American people out to big business and foreign interests like Israel (uh, oh, that Susan person is going to come after me now too.)

Meanwhile, the Democrats can't win a national election because they are allied to a lot of nonsensical novelties that a majority of voting Americans can't stomach, principally homosexual weddings.

I'm registered Independent. I used to be a Democrat. I voted for Bush in the last election. In my county, I usually support the republicans, and have done so even as a Democrat.
I don't have any feelings for either party and could support either one if they got their act together and started working for the nation's best interests (the "common good" in Catholic philosophy.)

Even though the Republicans oppose abortion, I think they do precious little to fight it. I think they are pulling everyone's leg. I also think their policies are going to end up causing a LOT of pain for Americans. They are more interested in classic economic liberalism than restoring the nation's Christian foundation.

When that happens, I wonder if the Democratic party, sick of losing elections, might not drop the gays and become a conservative Democratic party.

What do you all think. Comments from Europeans and Canadians are more than welcome because outsiders often see things that the members of a group don't.
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DominusTecum
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2005, 11:53:PM »

Indeed. The Republicans like to tout themselves as the good, common-sense conservative party, which is very much opposed to abortion, and also to gay marriage. However, they let the liberals (the "democrats,") get away with most everything. This does two similar things for the Republicans. It A) Drives people away from their competitor, the Democratic party, because average Joe is opposed to gay marriage, thinks of himself as nominally Christian, and probably isn't a HUGE fan of abortion either. Also, these issues are preserved as focal "rallying points," to which the Republicans can scream, and have instant support from said average Joes. If they would actually do something drastic, like end abortion, or stamp out the supposed "rights" of sodomites, then there would no longer be any direct party support for them, because this is where they derive their support. Most republicans don't care particularly for Bush's war, or his economic policy, they are just moral individuals who have a problem with abortion and sodomy.

 

The Democrats, though, by allying themselves with the liberalist fringe, are shooting themselves in the foot now, but I don't think things will stay that way. Sadly, most of the conservatives are older, and, like it or not, the youth are predominantly liberal. Thus, they will die out in America, and the democratic party will start, I think, to seem more mainstream. Sodomite, Planned Parenthood, environmentalist, and general liberal propaganda are astoundingly successful, and it is all that is heard. Thus, I think that more and more of the average, conservative-leaning citizenry will be enticed by the liberals, and come to see the democratic party and their liberal allies as a good thing.

 

Just my $0.02

 

I might also add that I think that while liberalism is slowing a bit in Europe, it's just really picking up steam here, because America has been a "conservative" bastion for years, compared with post-WWII Europe. America will drag Europe along with it in it's liberalism.

 

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VoxClamantis
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2005, 12:42:AM »

Both Parties are rotten to the core, owned, paid for, bought off by the same people. Both have expanded and will expand government, neither will stand up to "Israel," neither will do anything about the real problems we face (usury, fiat money, the Fed, loss of States' rights, etc.)

 

I say vote third party except for the very, very, very rare man like Ron Paul (TX). Or don't vote at all.

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DominusTecum
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2005, 01:00:AM »

That they are both rotten to the core doesn't even have to be said, it's painfully obvious.

One doesn't accomplish anything by voting "democrat," or by voting "republican," because it all feeds the same fire. I would be more inclined to vote libertarian or whatever the most Catholic party seems to be at the time of the election. I don't know of any Catholic parties at present in America, though...

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Brennus
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2005, 01:14:PM »

Perhaps we should start one (insert smiley face here).
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