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Author Topic: High Mass Low Mass What to do?  (Read 1288 times)
kzarah
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« on: August 18, 2005, 07:27:PM »

At the church that I attend we have a High Mass once a month.  The people at this parish don't seem to know what to do at a High Mass so they stand, kneel and sit as though they are at a low Mass.  I was attending the High Mass at Fr. Serra Chapel in Mission San Juan Capistrano where they do the same thing.  So where I go now only a few people including my self sit, stand and kneel the way we were taught.  Last Monday, I think that I was the only one.  I have to say that I feel out of place when this happens.  I don't really know what to do. 

Daniel

 

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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2005, 07:32:PM »

 

 

 

You could photocopy a missal with instructions on when to kneel/stand/sit and make them available to the people before mass.

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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2005, 07:46:PM »

We had little rubric cards when our chapel first opened.

 

I can ask the coordinator where he got them.

 

In the meantime, you can always sit in front and set the example.

 

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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2005, 07:49:PM »

You got it Kathy... You have no need to feel out of place. Sit in the front, so that you don't get sidetracked by the confusion and set the exemple... Folks will probably be grateful for the directions.

 

 

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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2005, 08:15:PM »

Yes, I'd sit in front too.  At the Indult we've been going to recently we have the opposite problem- everyone does the high Mass movements instead of the Low Mass ones.  The reason for this is that all they have for missals are those darned red Traditional Mass booklets, which are of course, for High Mass.

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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2005, 08:23:PM »

That happens at our indult parish too.  I asked the priest to give the parishoners a little pep talk during one of his sermons because it was driving me nuts, but he never did.

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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2005, 11:30:PM »

Daniel,
 
  Be cautious and don't alienate yourself from the rest of the congregation. 
 
  I too would recommend you sit in front in order to avoid confusion and  lead by example.  I would recommend, however, that you check with  the Priest and make sure that you are correct in your actions. 
 
  Father gave a series of lessons on when we were to stand, kneel, sit,  beat our chest, cross ourselves etc.  Although he was very clear  in his instruction it has been slow to take hold.  He stressed to  me that it was not something that should divide the community.   Many of the actions come from local customs and therefore are slow to  be left behind. 
 
  You are not alone.  Each Sunday finds our Family in the same situation.
 
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2005, 01:00:AM »

I don't agree with the source too many times, but check this below;
 
  http://www.traditio.com/office/masscong.txt
 
 
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2005, 07:08:PM »

Quote from: OrlandoCatholic
I don't agree with the source too many times, but check this below;

http://www.traditio.com/office/masscong.txt

Those, along with what is posted in the "red books" are the rubrics I was always used to and what our chapel used for the most part. Then last year we had a new priest come in and gave us the proper rubrics we should be doing and had some little handouts in the back of the chapel that I have scanned in below. I do not know the source for this as there is none noted on the little paper, but it looks like it came out of an old book. I do have to say that it a lot more standing and less kneeling as you cab see for yourself. I am not saying the priest is wrong and do not think less of him, but it is different than what I am used to. The most obvious thing most all us were doing was genuflecting when the priest sprinkled us during the Asperges, which we learned is reserved for a Bishop or higher's blessing. Does anyone know why there is a discrepancy in the rubrics and where the one that we follow originates?

 

 

Rules for Assistance At High and Dialogue Masses

 

KNEEL       at the prayers at the foot of the altar.

STAND       when the Celebrant ascends the altar steps.

SIT               with the priest at High Mass during the Gloria

STAND        when the Celebrant rises.

KNEEL         for the Collect(s) at penitential Masses.]

SIT                for the Epistle.

STAND         for the Gospel.

STAND         for the Creed.

KNEEL         at Et incarnatus est.

KNEEL          only at the sung Et incarnatus est

SIT, STAND  with the priest at High Mass.

SIT                  at the Offertory (just after the Oremus).

STAND          for the incensation of the priest and remain standing.]

STAND           at the "per omnia saecula saeculorum " before the Preface.

KNEEL           at the end of the Sanctus.

STAND            at the "per omnia saecula saeculorum " before the Pater Noster.

KNEEL            at the end of the Agnus Dei.

 

STAND            for the Dominus vobiscum before the Postcommunion Prayer(s).

 

REMAIN

KNEELING     [at penitential Masses.]

KNEEL             for the Last Blessing.          

STAND            for the Last Gospel (genuflecting with the Celebrant).

 

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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2005, 08:02:PM »

Pax,
 
  These are the Rubrics which were instructed on during a series of lesson given by our Priest.
 
 
 
 
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