FSSP priest assigned to N.O.

[aspergesme]

I'm not saying this will neccessarily happen, but only that it is always a possiblity.

 
  It has already happened in the FSSP.  They went from the TLM exclusively to Dual Rite to NOM.  How sad.
 
 

the more problems Rome would have in trying to radically alter the Diocese that do offer it

 
  Hello!  Wake up!  Do you think that those who assisted at the  TLM prior to VII were a fringe group?  The Vatican didn't have  much trouble totally throwing it out then.
 
 

As much I desire for the reunifaction of the SSPX, the principle  remains that as long as the SSPX remains in their current state, the  more leverage for tradition there is.. If an SSPX chapel were to appear  in an area, there will be a FAR greater chance of obtaining an FSSP  apostlate there also....

 
   So just what is it that you are saying?  That you wont  assist at an SSPX Chapel but are happy they are there so you can have  your "Indult"?  Now that's conviction.
 
  When an SSPX Chapel appears in an area who needs and Indult?   After all as time goes by the FSSP shows that it is more than willing  to celebrate the NOM.  Divide and Conquer!
 
  Yes we must pray for these men.  Don't forget to include Usque  Admortem in your prayers as he has just enter the same seminary this  young priest was "formed" in.
 
  :crucif:
 

[Maximilian]

Regarding the case of an FSSP priest assigned to a New Mass parish in Alaska:

 

This situation presently exists in the archdiocese of Indianapolis.

Here is a link to the website of the parish:
http://www.stlouis-batesville.org/default.asp?nc=4995&id=159

Rev. Gerard Saguto
Associate Pastor
Telephone: 812-934-3204 ext. 266
email address: custos516@lycos.com

Here is the nearby chapel with an indult where he offers the Latin Mass:
http://www.stceciliaofrome.com/

Saint Cecilia of Rome Catholic Apostate is a traditional apostate where the Tridentine Mass is offered under authorization of Archbishop Daniel Buechlein, O.S.B., Archbishop of Indianapolis. The Church is located in Oak Forest Indiana.

Celebrant: Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP
Administrator: Father Daniel Mahan, Pastor of St. Louis Church


My question is, "As Associate Pastor of St. Louis in Batesville, does he say the New Mass and perform all the other duties of an Associate Pastor, or is his role limited strictly to serving the traditional community at St. Cecilia/St. Philomena?"

I notice that this forum has lots of people from Indiana and Ohio. Perhaps someone knows the status of this situation.

[kjvail]

Regarding the case of an FSSP priest assigned to a New Mass parish in Alaska:

This situation presently exists in the archdiocese of Indianapolis.

Here is a link to the website of the parish:
http://www.stlouis-batesville.org/default.asp?nc=4995&id=159

Rev. Gerard Saguto
Associate Pastor
Telephone: 812-934-3204 ext. 266
email address: custos516@lycos.com

Here is the nearby chapel with an indult where he offers the Latin Mass:
http://www.stceciliaofrome.com/

Saint  Cecilia of Rome Catholic Apostate is a traditional apostate where the  Tridentine Mass is offered under authorization of Archbishop Daniel  Buechlein, O.S.B., Archbishop of Indianapolis. The Church is located in  Oak Forest Indiana.

Celebrant: Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP
Administrator: Father Daniel Mahan, Pastor of St. Louis Church


My  question is, "As Associate Pastor of St. Louis in Batesville, does he  say the New Mass and perform all the other duties of an Associate  Pastor, or is his role limited strictly to serving the traditional  community at St. Cecilia/St. Philomena?"

I notice that this forum has lots of people from Indiana and Ohio. Perhaps someone knows the status of this situation.

 
  This is a newly opened apostolate. My priest, Fr. Duvallis used to do the mass there until about 2 months ago.
  Fr. Duvallis the the associate pastor at Holy Rosary , my parish, in Indianapolis. He never does the NO.
 

[HMiS]

He never does the NO.

 

Or you might want to have him never doing the Novus Ordo?

 

He at least can and probably will be forced to concelebrate once a year. (Protocol 1411)

[kjvail]

He never does the NO.

Or you might want to have him never doing the Novus Ordo?

He at least can and probably will be forced to concelebrate once a year. (Protocol 1411)

 
  Actually I don't share your concern if does or doesn't. Who cares? If  you think the NO mass is ever going away you are living in a fantasy  world. It's not going to ever happen. I don't see it as an either/or  thing.
 

[aspergesme]

I don't see it as an either/or  thing.

 
  Nor do the modernists.
 
  :crucif:
 

[Sophia]

Actually I don't share your concern if does or doesn't. Who cares? If you think the NO mass is ever going away you are living in a fantasy world. It's not going to ever happen. I don't see it as an either/or thing.

Well if that is the case, then prepare for the second coming!

 

It may seem like this will never go away, but it must have seemed that way with Arianism or any of the other heresies in the Church as well.  God in his good time will set things to right.  We just have to stay the course and never compromise on what we know is right!(And pray like heck for the priests!)

 

This sad case, unfortunately comes as no surprise to anyone who looked upon the formation of the FSSP and the subsequent protocol with a pessimistic eye.   Stories like this affirm what the SSPX as been saying all along- that if you compromise with Rome be prepared to be stabbed in the back (my own paraphrasing.)

 

I've seen myself how the FSSP moves in to established SSPX communities to divide and conquer, while other cities are left deprived and ignored, despite the constant petitions to the local Bishop to have an Indult.  It makes me downright angry.  It creates even more division between trads, and so often, those who make the choice to leave the Society for the FSSP are betrayed and have the rug pulled out from under them. 

[kjvail]

I guess I continue to find it to be a strange attitude for a Roman Catholic to continually bad mouth and attack Rome and to assume they are always wrong.
  I can't and I won't. I didn't come all this way from athiest to pagan to Catholic to spend much time hating Rome. That doesn't even make any sense to me. If that makes me a "modernist" then, oh well.
  I have no fear of that, everyone who knows me knows I have no love for anything modern.
  I go to an FSSP mass, I will continue to go until something changes and I would be content if nothing ever did.
  I have no problem with the SSPX, I pray they are re-united to Rome  and soon. There is only FSSP here, if there was only SSPX I'd be there.  If there was both then I might be in quite a pickle, but I only have to  solve the problems I am faced with.
  I just think that Roman Catholics ought to be a little more respectful and differential to Rome than seems to be the case most of the time here.
  I had to mentally agree the other day with another poster who  admonished people that perhaps we should spend more time working on  making our selves into saints and less time groaning, griping and  getting into arguments over what bishop said what and when.
 
 
 

[Sophia]

I had to mentally agree the other day with another poster who admonished people that perhaps we should spend more time working on making our selves into saints and less time groaning, griping and getting into arguments over what bishop said what and when.

 

You are totally right.  The first step in doing this is finding a place where we can receive the sacraments. For those of us who have a nice, stable TLM to attend, it is easier to begin.  It is righteous indignation, however, directed at those priests, bishops, cardinals, and popes who withhold the Mass of all time and deliberately deceive those who would wish to attend it exclusively.  It is a scandal, and we should not sit idly by and let them take from us that which is rightfully ours.  Most of us can do little more than pray about it.  For me, I just have to raise my children the best I can and hope that I will get to heaven myself in the process. 

 

The thing I pointed out here, is that this article does nothing but strengthen the position SSPX has had all along regarding the FSSP. 

[Vandaler]

I guess I continue to find it to be a strange attitude for a Roman Catholic to continually bad mouth and attack Rome and to assume they are always wrong.
I can't and I won't. I didn't come all this way from athiest to pagan to Catholic to spend much time hating Rome. That doesn't even make any sense to me. If that makes me a "modernist" then, oh well.
I have no fear of that, everyone who knows me knows I have no love for anything modern.
I go to an FSSP mass, I will continue to go until something changes and I would be content if nothing ever did.
I have no problem with the SSPX, I pray they are re-united to Rome and soon. There is only FSSP here, if there was only SSPX I'd be there. If there was both then I might be in quite a pickle, but I only have to solve the problems I am faced with.
I just think that Roman Catholics ought to be a little more respectful and differential to Rome than seems to be the case most of the time here.
I had to mentally agree the other day with another poster who admonished people that perhaps we should spend more time working on making our selves into saints and less time groaning, griping and getting into arguments over what bishop said what and when.

Amen to that,

 

Not only this post warms my heart, I'm glad to finally read something I actually undertand from you

Your posts (or articles I should say) tend to be quite complicated.