Traditional baptism

[Brennus]

Hello again apologia forum people.

I'm still in a heap of headaches and haven't been actively posting, though I stop in every few days to take a peek at what is going on the forum here.

I have to post a question though.

My wife is having a baby in October and I need to get serious about the plans for baptism.

How badly corrupted is the baptism in NO parishes? I've noticed in some posts that most people say there isn't normally a question of validity regarding baptism but that a number of prayers and practices have been dropped.

I recently learned that in the NO only one godparent is required and if there are tow, only one of them must be a Catholic (certainly one of the least logical things I have heard yet. How can one promise to see to it that, in the event of the parents' death, a child will be brought up in the Catholic faith if one isn't even Catholic?)

At any rate. I don't know what to do. I have begun to attend the TLM mass, FSSP, in a church (A beautiful church built by Germans. I feel so at home!)in a city anhour away. It is closer than the other TLM I used to attend, also FSSP, about four times a year, about 1 hour and a half away.
 
I don't want to haul an infant that distance unless it is necessary. Moreover, I don't know if the FSSP priest at the closer city performs baptisms. I intend to find out.

THEN, I don't know any traditional Catholics who could be godparents. The best choices for Godparents I have are all NO and I don't know how they would feel about driving an hour away for a baptism.

Please give me some advice on this subject. I'll look again later tonight and then check back in a few days.

Thanks,

Brennus.

Also, please say a prayer for me. Things are really bad at my place of employment. I'm trying to extract a knife from my back at the moment. However, God is using the situation for the longterm benefit. I just need you to pray for strength for me.

[AdoramusTeChriste]

I don't want to haul an infant that distance unless it is necessary. Moreover, I don't know if the FSSP priest at the closer city performs baptisms. I intend to find out.
 

 

Infants love car rides! Don't blame the baby!

 

There is a HUGE difference between the rites. You have plenty of time to talk to a priest you are comfortable with- just don't put it off.

 

May St. Gerard obtain for you all the graces you need to get your baby off to a happy, healthy, and HOLY start.

[DominusTecum]

I would say the N.O. rite is deficient... (as are pretty much all N.O. rites.) It is deficient enough that it was discovered a few years back that for the last 20 years or so at a church in Eastern Canada (sorry, don't remember particulars,) all of the baptisms had been performed invalidly, because the priests had doctored the rite and were baptizing in the name of the "creator, liberator, and empowerer" (or something like that.) I would not want to chance such a thing if I am ever graced with a wife and children. Such novelties are impossible in the traditional rite, and the rite itself is much, much, much more beautiful.

 

Godparenting is a serious obligation. I think that if they are not willing to even drive an hour to a mass to have their godson baptized, they are probably not good choices for godparents.

[VoxClamantis]

How badly corrupted is the baptism in NO parishes? I've noticed in some posts that most people say there isn't normally a question of validity regarding baptism but that a number of prayers and practices have been dropped.

If the N.O. rite is followed, then it's valid -- but that's the problem. Priests are all the time changing the wording, not pouring water of the head (I've heard of many cases in which priests will dip the children's BUTTS into the fonts!), etc. The Novus Ordo world is like a box of chocolates; you never know what you're gonna get.

I recently learned that in the NO only one godparent is required and if there are tow, only one of them must be a Catholic (certainly one of the least logical things I have heard yet. How can one promise to see to it that, in the event of the parents' death, a child will be brought up in the Catholic faith if one isn't even Catholic?)

 

Non-Catholics can't be godparents/sponsors, not even in the N.O. In the N.O., at least one godparent/sponsor is required, but a non-Catholic can stand alongside him/her as a "witness" (whatever that means, exactly).

THEN, I don't know any traditional Catholics who could be godparents. The best choices for Godparents I have are all NO and I don't know how they would feel about driving an hour away for a baptism.

 

I think if I were you, I'd talk to the priest at the chapel at which you will have the baby baptized (and I pray that it's either F.S.S.P. or S.S.P.X. or I.C.K., etc.). He may know of a couple who could act as sponsors and whom you could get to know a bit before Baptism.

Also, please say a prayer for me. Things are really bad at my place of employment. I'm trying to extract a knife from my back at the moment. However, God is using the situation for the longterm benefit. I just need you to pray for strength for me.

Boy, there seems to be a lot of that going around lately! I will pray for you, Brennus...

[tradcatholicmom]

I've had two babies baptized NO.  Please, please, take the hour drive!  The baptisms were valid (conservative parish) but NOTHING compared to the Traditional Baptism.

 

Babies do fine with long car rides, especially newborns.  For the graces involved, it is a small sacrifice. 

 

When we first converted, we didn't know any Catholics at all, but we had a 12 month old that we wanted baptized.  (Technically, he was Catholic before we were. )  We asked our priest to assign godparents. He had no problem with it.

God bless you!

[francis]

My 8-year old daughter was recently baptised (conditionally) in the traditional rite. Yes, drive an hour. I'm sure the priest can help you find Godparents.