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« on: October 20, 2005, 12:37:PM » |
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How would nouns for words like I, we, us, they, them, ect. go in Latin? And, do they precede the word or follow it?
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2005, 01:55:PM » |
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You don't really have to use subject pronouns (ego, etc) unless you are emphasizing something - the verb ending will tell you the person. As far as objective pronouns, these too, will be inflected to make them objects. Word order doesn't really matter strictly in Latin, as the endings tell you what type of word it is and what it means. I would say that an objective pronoun would go before the verb more often, though, unlike in English where if follows the verb. Christina
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2005, 02:49:PM » |
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Ahhh, I see. Kind of like in Spanish. So we would simply say, for example, "credo" insted of "credo ego (or the other way around)," and the same for all words?
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DominusTecum
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2005, 03:03:PM » |
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Yes, that is why in the creed, we say "Credo in Deum," rather than "Ego Credo" or something else. Cred=believe, o=the "I" verb conjugation.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2005, 09:05:PM » |
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Dominus tecum So when we say credo we are conjugting the Latin word for beleive in the first person singular present tense. What is the conjugation for 2nd and 3rd person singular. What are the plural forms? Daniel
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To Modern Catholics: We are what you once were. We believe what you once believed. We worship as you once worshipped. If we are wrong now, you were wrong then. If you were right then, we are right now.
Sancte Joseph, terror daemonium et patriarcha sanctae Familiae, ora pro nobis.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2005, 07:51:AM » |
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Ahhh, I see. Kind of like in Spanish. So we would simply say, for example, "credo" instead of "credo ego (or the other way around)," and the same for all words? Exactly like Spanish. One does not have to say "yo creo en Dios", but merely "creo en Dios" suffices. In fact, on a practical level, very few times do we use "yo" because the verb implies yourself or the person you are talking to ("eres" versus "tu eres"). The few times that one uses "Me" is when the verb signals who it is "mandamelo" (mandar is the verb) or when one is affirming themselves to differentiate from something or someone else ("yo no" -not me).
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2005, 11:11:AM » |
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Credo - I believe in Credes - you (singular) believe in Credet - he, she, it, believes in Credemus - we believe in Credetis - you (plural) believe in Credent - they believe in Credere (the infinitive) always takes an indirect object, thus it is followed by a word in the dative case By the way, if you're pretty familiar with the prayers of the Mass in Latin, a good book to get is the Scanlan "Latin Grammar" sold by Tan...you can really see how the grammar works with the prayers.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2005, 04:41:PM » |
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The proper conjugation of the verb to believe, in the present active is actually this:
credo credis credit credimus creditis credunt
You have it conjugated like a second conjugation verb but it is actually a third conjugation verb. It is an easy error to make. Second conjugation verbs end in ere in the infinitive. Third conjugation verbs end in ere or ire in the infinitive. In the second conjugation, the e in ere is long. In the third, it is short.
The way you tell the difference is by looking at all the information given for a verb in a proper Latin dictionary. For credere, you would see:
credo, credere, credidi, creditus, to belive.
In second conjugation verbs, the e from ere appears in the first person singular. In the third, it does not. If it were a second conjugation verb we would say credeo instead of credo.
Pray for me,
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2005, 08:46:PM » |
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Behold the inheritance of the Lord are children; the reward, the fruit of the womb. As arrows in the hand of the mighty...(Psalm 126)
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