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Marisa
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« on: November 09, 2005, 09:28:AM »

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Canada/2005/11/09/1298910-sun.html

These twos truly terrible

Rampaging toddlers trash bungalow

 

By CP

LISTOWEL, Ont. -- A pair of southwestern Ontario toddlers are giving new meaning to the terrible twos.

The boys wandered away from a home in this town north of Stratford yesterday and carved a path of destruction through another.

"They did a lot of damage for two little boys," said Const. Randy Clarkson. "And they didn't even seem to be the slightest bit put out by the whole deal."

After slipping out of their home, police said the 2-year-old cousins "ransacked" a nearby bungalow, emptying the contents of the refrigerator onto the floor, rummaging through a bedroom and breaking a sheet of drywall.

One of the boys even deposited his diaper in a basement aquarium housing three turtles. The turtles were not injured.

Police said the pair may have been on the lam for as long as three hours.

They were only discovered missing after police arrived at the boys' home shortly before noon on an unrelated matter and found a door wide open and two adults sound asleep inside.

"I can't believe that two 2-year-olds did all this," homeowner Eileen Peppler said last night as she tried to decide where to begin the cleanup.

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Psyche
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2005, 10:30:AM »

OK, I'm blaming this on public school and TV.

 

From all the kids I've known and currently know (and that's a whole lot) the main difference in behavior is not so much what religion the parents are; whether the parents are "strict" or not; whether they are pampered or poor.  The difference seems to lie in 1) whether or not they watch TV and 2) whether or not they are homeschooled.

 

Even private-school kids who don't have a TV at home get influenced for the worse by those kids at school who do have TVs.

 

There's a 2-year old boy I know who, even when he was younger, would grab at his mom's earrings and yank them out whenever he got mad at her.  Cold, calculating, intending to hurt his mommy.  Obviously he's not in school or homeschool yet . . . but the TV is his babysitter.  His parents only let him watch "kid stuff":  cartoons and shows specifically for toddlers & kids.  And he still shows that difference of being a TV-watcher.  Bad, bad, bad behavior is normal behavior for him.  He is cruel in a way which 2-year-olds shouldn't know how to be!

 

I'm not one of the "shoot your TV" advocates.  I love watching football & baseball & classic movies.  But allowing babies, toddlers, and kids to use the TV as some sort of babysitter, or even as a primary entertainment source, is dangerous.

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Suscipe
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2005, 11:56:AM »

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OK, I'm blaming this on public school and TV.

 

Well who sends them to public school and who allows them to watch TV?

 

As the father of four toddler boys (triplet 2 yr olds and a three year old) I can attest to their ability to get into things on occasion, but nothing like the cousins in this story.  My boys do not watch TV, have plenty of outdoor time on our playground, and have already begun a healthy prayer life.  When they are destructive it usually involves their own toys.  They did break a few rosaries when they were first learning to use them and they often rip books by accident, but over all they have good self-control.

 

The thing that keeps them out of real trouble is their mom. ( for my DW) She knows them well enough to sense when one or more may be about to get out of hand.  She also recognizes their innate need to have something interesting to do and, on occasion, something ‘destructive’ to do.  One of our boys, Gabriel, loves to pick flowers.  DW has cheep mums that he can pick.  This week all of them are into destroying leaf piles.  The ground rules on certain things have been set from infancy: no grabing food from the fridge or pantry, be creative with paper, not walls, leave electronics and medicine to the adults.

 

So I would say that the most important aspect of keeping toddlers out of trouble is good parenting.  At the age of two I wouldn’t think we can generalize about homeschooling v. private or public schooling.  Perhaps the effect of having older siblings who are in school v. having older siblings who are homeschooled could be a link to behavior.  My oldest is nine and attends a Catholic school.  So far no problem.  Her younger siblings look up to her and take their cue from her respect for us.

 

One more thing, regular prayers to their guardian angels help a great deal.  I could tell some great stories about what DW and I percieve to be help from their guardians.

 

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Alf
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2005, 05:37:PM »

Wow. Imagine if the police never stopped by? I can't imagine how two year olds could do so much damage. The parents were aslep during this whole thing? Wouldn't they make a ruckus trying to open the door? I dunno. This story is just weird. Were the parents charged with any crime?

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NewTradCatholicGal
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2005, 08:55:PM »

 

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Cold, calculating, intending to hurt his mommy. 
 This could pretty well describe my first boy when he was two. He didn't hurt people physically. But how many times can you make your mother clean up a barrel of flour off her freshly cleaned floors. And childproof locks were made for children under six months. None ever worked on my guys. I wonder if they ever actually tested these devices.

 

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As the father of four toddler boys (triplet 2 yr olds and a three year old)
 I bow to the masters of dealing with toddlers. I thought I had it bad with two in the house. TRIPLETS. I'm scared of ever having twins.

 

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They were only discovered missing after police arrived at the boys' home shortly before noon on an unrelated matter and found a door wide open and two adults sound asleep inside.
 

 

There's your answer to what was wrong with the discipline of the boys. The parents insist on sleeping until afternoon, undisciplined themselves, and the police were there "on an unrelated matter". Gee, what's wrong with those kids?

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Agnes
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2005, 11:11:PM »

I have 12 two-year olds. (Not my own! -- I work at a day-care/pre-school,) and from my observation of them and their interaction with their

parents, the parents are most definately to blame for all misbehavior. Now, most of these kids watch tv, none are homeschooled, and most are only children, yet their behavior all varies depending on their parents' reaction to misbehavior.

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Marisa
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2005, 08:23:AM »

http://www.570news.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20051110_080334_2852

Toddlers now with Children's Aid

By: 570 News

The Children's Aid Society is looking after those rampaging two year old boys from Listowel.

 

Provincial Police say they're not going to pursue criminal charges against the parents.

The two boys wandered from their home into a nearby bungalow on Tuesday and ransacked the place. The owner of the ransacked home says it was hard to believe they did not have an accomplice.

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Paul
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2005, 12:28:PM »

Quote from: Marisa
One of the boys even deposited his diaper in a basement aquarium housing three turtles. The turtles were not injured.
 
  Well, at least there's that piece of good news! ;)
 
  Somehow, I think if the turtles had been hurt, people would care more about that than two children being left alone.
 
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Psyche
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2005, 02:39:PM »

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Now, most of these kids watch tv, none are homeschooled, and most are only children, yet their behavior all varies depending on their parents' reaction to misbehavior.

 

Maybe ya'll are right.  Perhaps I just assume that Trad parents do a better job than most with their kids and so I want to blame it on TV or something else.

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Agnes
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2005, 09:39:PM »

Trad parents DO do a much better job at raising kids than most other ones-- and a key factor in this is the elimination, or gross reduction, of television.

I was just comparing my kids to each other, totally ignoring Trad kids. My children who have parents that will fuss if they do something wrong are much better than those whose parents encourage or laugh at misbehavior.

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