Goths vs. Vikings

[Varus]

CV,

 

Could not resist a "dominant" comment..;)

 

About the red hair..... I've heard that we actually brought the red hair over there in the sense that dark hair became fairer. The blonde hair-thing was not ice-blonde like many would like it to be, it was more of a sandy colour. And still is, btw. Of course, some have really blonde, almost white hair, but that is not (and was not) the average hair colour. Everybody else (outside Northern Europe) had mostly black hair, so everything lighter than that was perceived as "blonde" hair.

 

 

 

Is it true that red hair comes from the vikings?

 

Since we're on the subject.

 

This what I found...I don't know if it is correct...but it sounds good..lol 

 

"Trønder: Your mistake is this: The Scots' red hair was NOT brought along by the Vikings. The Norwegian Vikings added more blondness to the population.

To understand the complexities of the British Isles' racial history, and in this instance Scotland, let us look at what people made up the modern Scottish nation. Basically, Scotland is an amalgamation of Scots (originally from Ireland! Ireland was named Scotia in ancient times, and Scotland actually got its name from Ireland!) on the western side, Picts (ancient tribe, most commonly thought to be Celtic) in the central highland parts, Anglo-Saxons in the south (the so-called "Lowland Scots"), Ancient Britons (related to the Welsh) in the far southwestern corner and Scandinavians in the far north, Orkney and the Hebrides.

Thus, one can imagine that the red genes were mainly brought over by the ancient Scots who migrated from Ireland to western Scotland." http://www.stormfront.org/archive/t-166889Misplaced_Hatred/t-206598London_Muslims_call_for_another_9/t-25924.html

 

 

My part Norwegian grandma has red hair. She may be part Irish though.

 

Your  entire post failed. WE rule both the south and the north.

Ya totally...lol

 

 

[NewTradCatholicGal]

This might be a dumb question but how do you know if you're a viking? Is if you are part Norwegian, Swedish or Danish or do you trace your ancestors back to a certain viking?

 

Thanks for the info on the red hair.

[KyrieEleison]

I have weird hair. When I cut it short, it is blonde. When I let it grow about 2 inches, it is a sandy blonde color. Then when I let it grow it turns into this dark brown, almost black color... What am I?

[Kephapaulos]

I didn't fail; I just now found out we're all brothers of the same tribe.

[Varus]

In Palermo you will immediately see a grand statue of a northern looking man and under it the text says:

"Roger, il primo di Normanni." The Normans were originally Vikings under the chief Rollo. (in Norwegian "Ganger-Rolf". "Ganger" is a word for "horse" They called him that because he was so big and heavy that a horse once broke it's back due to the weight of the man. Anyway, he plundered and robbed a lot in France, until the French king offered him a lot of silver and gold and the position of Count over what has since been known as Normandy, in return of protection against other Vikings. Ganger-Rolf said yes and setteld there. His ascendant (fifth generation) was William the Conqueror. (Funny enough, William (Vilhjalm in Norwegian) was called "the Bastard" because he was a bastard son. Naturally they changed that after England got it pretty hard.)

Roger il primo di Normanni was the duke (viceroi) of Sicily and the Normans held it for 3 centuries.

 

So basically, you Italians have had your dose of Northerners.

[Psyche]

 

 Part Norwegian, Swedish or Danish?

 

I'm part Viking & I'm Catholic so somehow some of us have the Faith.  I don't know about the red hair thing.

 

Ahh, for the good 'ol days of rampaging across the Continent . . .

 

Well actually I think my lineage traces back to before there were those distinctions (though I'm not sure.  Perhaps someone can enlighten me.)

 

When William the Conqueror of Normandy made his conquest of Brittan, some of his loyal followers & aides were from a Viking family with an unpronounceable name.  In reward for their loyal service, William gave them the unoccupied holdings of Croy in what is now northern Belgium, which included a castle/manor house and land.  For the sake of their peers and posterity the family gave up their unpronounceable Viking name and took "Croy" as their surname along with the land.  This is how my last name is Croy.

 

Did Denmark, Norway, and Sweden exist as separate countries back then, or were they "established" later?

[Psyche]

I have weird hair. When I cut it short, it is blonde. When I let it grow about 2 inches, it is a sandy blonde color. Then when I let it grow it turns into this dark brown, almost black color... What am I?

I don't know but as far as hair goes you sound like me, except opposite.  When my hair is short it's dark brown.  When it's meduim length it starts getting blond (not just highlights, it's wierd) and when it's mid-back length or longer there's medium brown, light brown, blond, red, and copper all mixed up!

[royalcello]

Did Denmark, Norway, and Sweden exist as separate countries back then, or were they "established" later?

Yes, Denmark, Norway, and Sweden, were all separate countries by the time of the Norman Conquest; their monarchies date back to the 9th century, if not earlier.

Union came later.   The three crowns were united in 1397 under Queen Margrethe I.  Sweden re-established her independence in 1523, but Denmark and Norway remained united until 1814, at which time Norway was transferred to union with Sweden, which lasted until 1905, when Norway regained her independence.  Incidentally, this Friday, November 18, will be the 100th anniversary of the proclamation of Prince Carl of Denmark (1872-1957) as King Haakon VII in 1905.

[Avalonik]

So basically, you Italians have had your dose of Northerners.

My aunt Ann, %100 Sicilian (and one of seven brothers & sisters), has RED hair and very fair skin.  She the only one.  All of my aunts and uncles and grandmother are prettty dark.  It skipped my two cousins (her sons), but three of her grandchildren have red hair.

It's a very pretty, dark, rich, red.  Not "orange" looking.  And, interestingly, no freckles.

[Kephapaulos]

Now were the Geats and Geatland mentioned in Beowulf a real tribe and nation?