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Author Topic: Quote the Error or Heresy  (Read 1687 times)
ConfusedEWTNCatholic
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« on: February 02, 2006, 02:57:PM »

The following would be helpful to me. if anyone could quote the parts of the 16offical Vatican II documents which are either Heretical, theological error, or ambiguous.

 

I'll try to play the "devils advocate" and defend the quote. In the past I've tried rationalizing the problems, and been happy with the rationalizations. If people could object though it would force me to think twice.

 

EDITED- ADDED THIS ON AFTER THE FACT

 

Or is this too much like what BibleCatholicJMJ is trying to do on InterCatholic discussion/debate/whatever-you-want-to-call-it 

 

 

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gladius_veritatis
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2006, 03:08:PM »

It might overlap a little, or a lot, but that is not a problem, IMO.  I will bring a few quotes for you later, along with the pre-V2 quotes that say the exact same thing (sometimes in the very same words), but teaching authoritatively that these ideas are condemned.  The boldness of the V2 docs is striking, when you see what the previous teachings say.  Get back to you soon.  Cheers.

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tradcatholicmom
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2006, 03:35:PM »

I have a whole document I'd be happy to send you on "no salvation outside the Church" alone, but it's not just limited to the VII documents; it includes JPII's encylicals as well as some other comments, such as from then-Cardinal Ratzinger.

 

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